CTDs with V5.1HF1

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Thank you Norm. The registry entry is in my registry, always was.

Top insertion for ORBX (what you see in the video) is LOIJ, bottom insertion is TF lower. All the airports look allright, though. I didn't check all, but some.

Karl

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Rod, it reads:

4.4/10.0 GB

Karl

Hi Karl,

Your initial pic post indicates that the video card is crashing.  If it is a Device Hung Error, how much VRAM is available right before you get the error?

Rod

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Nick from ORBX says it's ok:

https://orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/202342-orbx-central-sync-simulator-strange-scenerycfg/

Karl

The orbx add-on xml stuff is creating a weird in your scenery.cfg. ..

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It's getting worse.

After installing vanilla V5.1HF1 and all my ORBX addons I had a scenery library order that was ok. No ORBX addon on top.

Today suddenly I had ORBX elements on top after doing the Sync. From that time on I'm getting more CTDs.

Here is a video, ORBX HD Buildings is disabled:

https://vimeo.com/482603333

I will now uninstall all ORBX addons. I'm sure I will not have any crashes then anymore. Fter that I will start adding one by one to see what happens.

It's a bit frustrating. Thinking about flying in MSFS.

Karl

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Rod, it reads:

4.4/10.0 GB

Karl

Well, that certainly is not the problem.  Since your crashes are all graphics card device hung errors, is windows 10 and the nVidia driver up to date? 

Rod

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Yes, Rod, I checked that. Everything is up to date. Winver shows 20H2, Nvidia driver is 457.30. I even did a complete uninstall with DDU and reinstalled the driver.

But I found something now: Starting at some airports P3D does not crash immediately, it only crashes after some time into the flight.

On some airports it crashes immediately after loading.

I have to investigate this.

Karl

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It must be connected to ORBX somehow. Yesterday, before I installed my ORBX addons I was in the air for several hours, including a MFC leg.

Karl

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Maybe I found it. When I installed V5 I copied over the ORBX freeware airport pack. Until V5.1 this wasn't a problem. Obviously %.1HF1 has a problem with it.

I got rid of them and don't have a crash any more. I'm now flying a leg.

Let's see how it goes.

Karl

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Ok, this did fix some crashes, I just finished another leg. But it didn't fix the crash when ORBX HD Buildings are installed.

So, I uninstalled ORBX HD buildings and the freeware airports I copied over from V4. Other than that I think I just can hope that it will not crash.

Karl

[nbrich1]

Oh boy Karl..  Yes have heard Nick say the same to others concerning addons by xml- That order doesn't matter..  But my pea brain keeps saying that it still makes a difference, especially for LC type scenery pieces- IE: Default Terrain/bases, LC, full fat regions, Tongass etc, where we have always thought that their layering position has to be correct and it does matter.

Certain things like the default pieces/bases/terrain  are supposed to load first and will lay odds that OC (Orbx Central) has messed up your scenery.cfg for one, and for two, possibly your terrain.cfg.

Also, you updated GPU drivers, so might be best turf your old shaders folder, sceneryindexes64 folder and prepard3d.cfg and let the sim rebuild them all with your new configuration. (after check your terrain.cfg but until the orbx stuff is correct 

I guess as long as you didn't see issues in your sim it doesn't wouldn't matter but continuous CTD etc, something is definitely messed up. Best to go back to vanilla I think to get that working as intended before doing anything else with orbx stuff etc.. very frustrating. (If you use Lorby, (I won't), but if so turn it off   cause it is just as bad as orbx central for messing up correct layering).  (I'll shut up now.).

If there is anything that we can do to be a help just yell or email and can try to help via voice comms... etc.

Norm

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Thank you very much, Norm.

Everything started to go wrong with 5.1 HF1. Before I had the Device hung crash only once when I wanted too much from my GPU in TE NC and Flightbeam KSFO.

Another story from today: I purchased ORBX LOWW, installed it, fired the sim up and had a crash immediately. I fiddled around with the layerings of Austria Professional HD in relation to LOWW and got it working.

Maybe 5.1HF1 is just a bit more "vulnerable" than previous versions?

Anyway, good to know that there are people here that can and will help if help is needed.

Karl

[stiletto2]

Hi Karl,

Just a quick quesiton on the freeware airports that you said you copied from v4.  Not sure if you mean the Global Airport Pack.  If you do, I show it as avaible for direct install in Orbx Central when set to P3Dv5.  Just wondered why you copied it from v4.  Of course, I might have the wrong software that you are talking about.

Rod

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Rod, yes, it is the ORBX freeware airport pack. When V5 arrived that pack was not available for the new version. Later then ORBX made it available "as is". I did not install it and kept the pack I copied.

What I could do, and probably will do, is to try the pack from ORBX. There are several freeware airports where my V5.1HF1  crashes immediately after startup (using the V4 pack).

And, again, this worked until and including V5.1 with no troubles.  Maybe there is a special relationship between V5.1HF1 and my hardware.

Thinking about it the problems started when I saw that strange laydring in the scenery library after syncing in ORBX Central (after installing HF1).

Mostly problems like this one are a combination of more than one factor and we have some factors her: P3D software, ORBX, hardware, driver.

Karl

Karl

[stiletto2]

HI Karl,

I think Orbx got some volunteers to make some changes to the v4 Global Airport Pack and then they incorporated those and that is why they offered it as is for P3Dv5.   I would recommend using the v5 version since I think it has some changes from the v4 version..probably has nothing to do with your crashes though...

Did you check to see if disabling the nVidia audio driver (s) (only a few users use nVidia audio from an HDMI cable) found in your Device Manager under Sound made a difference in getting the hang?  Sometimes nVidia opens multiple audio drivers and they have been known to hang the graphic card....

Just a thought.

Rod

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Hello Karl,
I‘m sorry to read about your problems....
I have now P3dv5.1 HF1 installed and have no problems so far. It is running well and I have no CTD‘s.

I have also lots of ORBX stuff installed including the freeware global airport pack for v5. It seems to work fine.
Also ORBX HD Buildings is installed with no issues so far.

By the way, I updated client and content, but not scenery yet.