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ATC app for P3dv5
« on: November 17, 2020, 03:53:19 PM »
Hello,
I‘m looking for a third party ATC app and I‘m curious if you use one you can recommend for P3d v5.

I‘d like to have a copilot function doing all the ATC automated, so for myself I do not have to care about it, but hear the ATC chattering in my headphone for immersion purposes.

I did some research on the web and found a few products like Pro-ATC VoxATC, but like to hear opinions about them. May be you have some experience with these App‘s?





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Re: ATC app for P3dv5
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2020, 10:56:40 AM »
Hi Klaus,

I have VoxATC.  I love it for Pust to Talk (PTT) interactive voice conversation with ATC using true voice recognition.   However, it does not have the feature you are looking for.  The First Officer function is only available for IFR flights and sometimes you have to ask the First Officer to do certain things.

It sounds like you are looking for what MSFS does when you turn the "Delegate ATC to AI" option on.  It works very well and feels like the person next to you is doing all the ATC.  I turn it on now when I fly MSFS until the time VoxATC releases for MSFS (which I hope is someday sooner than later). 

I don't know what any of the other ATC programs like ProATC do.

Rod

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Re: ATC app for P3dv5
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2020, 04:57:13 PM »
Hello Rod,
Thank you for reporting your experiences.

That Delegate ATC to AI option would be exactly what I‘m looking for.
I‘ll keep searching....maybe I find a product offering I‘m looking for.


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Re: ATC app for P3dv5
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2020, 08:01:59 PM »
I would love to use VoxATC, but it most certainly wouldn't recognize what I'm saying. Or can it cope with German accent?

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Re: ATC app for P3dv5
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2020, 09:16:17 PM »
     I use a program called "VoiceAttack", which interprets my speech and responds with pre-programmed responses, or key presses, or whatever I tell it do.  For that program, I spent some time training it to recognize my voice, as heard through my microphone.  I would speak a command, and the program would type what it thought I said.  It memorizes sound patterns, and you define what that pattern represents.  You could use Klingon if you wished, and it would still work.  You store the commands in profiles, which correspond to whatever program you're using it on.   I can say "check my email", and VA will open my browser and my email program for me.  For flying I can set flaps, start the engines, turn on lights, gear up/down, etc. 
     The VoxATC program sounds like a cousin of VA.  All I mean by that is that there is most likely a "training period" to teach your speech engine your voice/accent.  I didn't see any complaints about the program usage.
    There is a 30 day free trial offered by VoxATC, so you could "check it out" before spending your money.  VoiceAttack also has a "try before you buy" option of full functionality but only 20 commands max.

https://voxatc.com/
https://voiceattack.com/Default.aspx
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Re: ATC app for P3dv5
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2020, 02:32:18 PM »
I would love to use VoxATC, but it most certainly wouldn't recognize what I'm saying. Or can it cope with German accent?

Karl

Hi Karl,

VoxATC is awesome but not yet available for MSFS!  It works well for P3Dv5+   I think you might need to be running an english Windows OS to use it.  VoxATC has a significant training speech trainer (see Flight Plan Trainer) which learns how you pronounce words when you read phrases and paragraphs back to it.  Here is a link to a VoxATC User Manual:

https://voxatc.com/Content/voxATCXHelp.pdf

If you wish to ask more questions about VoxATC recognizing accents, you can use the VoxATC support forum which I have used now and then.   Tegwyn, the developer doesn't post much but there are a couple of others that are connected closely tp the developer such as Kevin Firth. Here is the link to the forum.

https://www.avsim.com/forums/forum/229-the-voxatc-support-forum/

Hope this helps.

Rod

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Re: ATC app for P3dv5
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2020, 03:46:38 PM »
Thank you Rod, I'll take a look.

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Re: ATC app for P3dv5
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2020, 05:32:49 PM »
Thank you all for sharing your experiences...helps a lot thinking about my goals and possibilities to bring more immersion into my sim.

I‘d wish to have an app doing copilots work automated.
Doing the ATC is one thing......It would be cool this automated copilot reads the checklist and I‘d have to confirm each item with checked, set and so on.

VoiceAttack sounds interesting as acting as an virtual commander.....I‘ll take a look into this.

By the way, P3D offers a voice recognition system.......but never tried it. I believe it only offers a few phrases for voice commands....curios if anybody uses this feature?
« Last Edit: November 21, 2020, 08:51:41 AM by corbu1 »


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Re: ATC app for P3dv5
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2020, 07:26:23 AM »
Hi,
I started playing around witch VoiceAttack.
I think it‘s a really powerful tool once you have set it up correct and the system is used to your speech.

Started with a few commands in p3dv5 now like taking screenshots, VR headset recalibration, landinglights and showing the atc window......one nice thing is, that you can order VoiceAttack to confirm your command phrases so you get an audio feedback. You can set system sounds or let Voice attack tell phrases like „screenshot taken“ or something else. It seems there are complete audio packs for purchase for better audio immersion when interacting with Voice Attack.


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Re: ATC app for P3dv5
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2020, 07:46:08 AM »
Interesting....

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Re: ATC app for P3dv5
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2020, 09:31:00 AM »
     I originally got VA for playing in "Elite: Dangerous".  But I use it for all my games, and operating system too.  I've programmed in conversational snippets, and witty remarks for "Amy" to respond to also.  You can execute any keystroke or mouse click, or set up macros to do repetitive tasks.

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Re: ATC app for P3dv5
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2020, 05:42:29 PM »
It seems VA is very common regarding space simulations like Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen. I found a bunch of youtube tutorials for them, but not for flightsims except DCS.

I have started doing some chatting commands for my helo flights. When I ask ready to start the helicopter, my virtual copilot now answers outside check is performed, the helo is fueled up and ready we are to start up the systems. Or when I‘m asking ready to lift off, she (there are only female speakers I found default in VA) answers that the area is clear and safe, ready for lift off. These do not any commands in P3d, but it‘s fun having some virtual conversations in the cockpit now... ;D
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