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MS Releases New Simulator Specs
« on: April 28, 2020, 08:09:43 AM »
Uhhhh.... I don't think so until I win the lottery, which I never waste my hard earned money playing anyway.

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Re: MS Releases New Simulator Specs
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2020, 08:14:06 AM »
8 GB VRAM for ideal specs. They are on DX11 still and they know why.

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Re: MS Releases New Simulator Specs
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2020, 08:43:09 AM »
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying about DX 11.

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Re: MS Releases New Simulator Specs
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2020, 08:58:22 AM »
DX11 is forgiving if an application uses more VRAM as there is available on the GPU. It simpli swaps out to conventional RAM. Same for OPEN GL.

DX12 gives an OOM error in the same situation.

P3D V5 is on DX12. That's why it is important to have an eye on your VRAM occupation in V5. And that's why V5 shows that measure as an info for Shift-Z.

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Re: MS Releases New Simulator Specs
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2020, 01:03:42 PM »
MS2020 Requirements (video version).

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Re: MS Releases New Simulator Specs
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2020, 07:01:39 PM »
DX11 is forgiving if an application uses more VRAM as there is available on the GPU. It simpli swaps out to conventional RAM. Same for OPEN GL.

DX12 gives an OOM error in the same situation.

P3D V5 is on DX12. That's why it is important to have an eye on your VRAM occupation in V5. And that's why V5 shows that measure as an info for Shift-Z.

Karl

Lockheed is working on a very quick fix for the P3Dv5 VRAM OOM problem.  This is, quite possibly, a do or die fix.  The vast majority of P3Dv4 users have graphic boards with 8 GB VRAM or less.   And, since you can't add VRAM to a graphics board, right now the only option is to buy a new board if you want more VRAM.  One of the biggest draws of P3Dv5 is its much better frame rate which becomes very helpful in densely populated areas (e.g. London, Seattle) right up until you run out of VRAM and the sim crashes.  Some customers are already asking for refunds while most are deciding to stay with V4 until Lockheed fixes the issue.  I can't believe Lockheed released V5 with this glaring glitch. 

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Re: MS Releases New Simulator Specs
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2020, 09:18:43 PM »
A worse bug is the terrain strikes. 500-600' agl and you get wacked by the terrain like you were a fly smacked by a fly swatter...  P3Dv5x was released in haste due to corona and more sales because many more were in "Stay home" mode and they were the guinea pig beta testers so to speak. Expect a fixed version next week.. (but that's what they said last week - so we should have had a fixed version this week-with the terrain strikes, gpu issue and some other fixes corrected..  but not yet..!), so now we still "stay home" and wait!

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Re: MS Releases New Simulator Specs
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2020, 07:16:15 AM »
Yes, as long as there is no fix for all that I don't use V5.


..... like you were a fly smacked by a fly swatter.....

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Re: MS Releases New Simulator Specs
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2020, 05:24:03 PM »
DX11 is forgiving if an application uses more VRAM as there is available on the GPU. It simpli swaps out to conventional RAM. Same for OPEN GL.

DX12 gives an OOM error in the same situation.

P3D V5 is on DX12. That's why it is important to have an eye on your VRAM occupation in V5. And that's why V5 shows that measure as an info for Shift-Z.

Karl

Lockheed is working on a very quick fix for the P3Dv5 VRAM OOM problem.  This is, quite possibly, a do or die fix.  The vast majority of P3Dv4 users have graphic boards with 8 GB VRAM or less.   And, since you can't add VRAM to a graphics board, right now the only option is to buy a new board if you want more VRAM.  One of the biggest draws of P3Dv5 is its much better frame rate which becomes very helpful in densely populated areas (e.g. London, Seattle) right up until you run out of VRAM and the sim crashes.  Some customers are already asking for refunds while most are deciding to stay with V4 until Lockheed fixes the issue.  I can't believe Lockheed released V5 with this glaring glitch. 

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The possibilities getting graphics cards with more VRam than 8GB are limited. There are the Ti editions from Nvidea....a RTX2080 Ti has 11GB VRam. Will this be enough for v5 running fluid and stable? There is the Titan RTX with 24GB VRam, the Rolls Royce among graphics cards, for the price of two RTX 2080Ti?....I‘m wondering how many flightsimmers can und want spend the money for such a beast?


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Re: MS Releases New Simulator Specs
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2020, 06:27:12 PM »
I think the next gen for Nvidia cards expected later this year will feature more VRAM with the founders edition level card...possibly 10 - 12 GB.  I am hoping the HotFix 1 that just came out for P3Dv5 will reduce the VRAM usage so that I can live with my current 8GB VRAM for awhile.

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Re: MS Releases New Simulator Specs
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2020, 10:05:10 AM »
I think so, Rod. Using rather high settings I fly with 4,9 VRAM occupation from PAOH to PASI. At PAKT I had 5,3.

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Re: MS Releases New Simulator Specs
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2020, 10:33:08 AM »
Hi Karl,

Thanks.  Do you know what the VRAM usage was before the hot fix in those same type of scenarios?

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Re: MS Releases New Simulator Specs
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2020, 11:24:28 AM »
No, unfortunately I don't have a direct comparison, but from what I remember it was not much different.

By the way, arriving at PASI VRAM went up to 5.2. But that's still ok for a 8 GB card.

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Re: MS Releases New Simulator Specs
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2020, 01:17:24 PM »
Here are my settings for ~5.0 VRAM at constant 30 fps at LOWI.

https://vimeo.com/414269743

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Re: MS Releases New Simulator Specs
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2020, 10:52:06 AM »
I was thinking about the new MS Flight Simulator, considering to test it.

Well, if its only available by monthly subscription I will not get it. If I can buy it for, lets say, 50,- to 70,-, I will give it a try.

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