Norm thanks, I ruined about six pc6's, In this air club I used to belong to, they had an award for damaging an aircraft called the HAFAS Award, pronounced halfass, stood for the Honorary Assoc of the Fractured Air Screw, it was the wooden prop off of a Mooney Mite that was busted up. It had some notable names on it that visited the club over the years. including General McPeak and Colonel Yeager