And don't think I don't appreciate what you folks do, your doing Picasso and I'm drawing stick figures, like I've said on different post's I am amazed at the sceneries that are created and all for a thank you here and there. Like I said in my post to Dieter earlier today, sometimes you only hear from some when they have a problem, for some reason in human nature a lot of folks are just that way. I am really having a good time with the Medical Missions and what with vectors from Corbu1, Trex3D, Tenpin and others I'm venturing into the realm of whip wings, which I probably wouldn't have considered otherwise