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Title: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: NM_Stan on January 03, 2021, 09:02:30 PM
Hello All,  Sorry that the first post is a problem.  I simply cannot get a download site for the Tongass Fjords scenery.  Every attempt to use the given address sends me to a Shopify page that wants me to start a business.  It give directions that misdirect completely.  Any help would be appreciated as I cannot proceed until I get the Tongass pack.  Regards, Stan
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: jeff3163 on January 03, 2021, 09:48:48 PM
Welcome to RTMM's forum, NM_Stan.
     Helping with your problems is why we're here.  Here's what I found so far.

FSAddon has closed it's doors.   :'(

(Full article)
https://fssupport.com/fsaddon/?p=3040 (https://fssupport.com/fsaddon/?p=3040)

. . . excerp
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As of January 1st the Shopify Shop will be off-line. It also means support for previously sold products will be a problem because I am not continuing the almost daily efforts I still put in currently. More like once a week. And over some time the server contracts holding the software will also lapse, making the downloads no longer available.

Take care Francois.  We'll miss you.

Someone here may know more about it.  Holger or Bill?
I wondered if OrbxDirect has TFX now?  But no.  (not yet, anyway)
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: NM_Stan on January 04, 2021, 04:51:54 PM
Thanks Jeff for the info.  I'm going to assume that I can proceed without Tongass and add it later if it becomes available somehow.  Regards, Stan
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: jeff3163 on January 04, 2021, 07:07:10 PM
     Well, it is a requirement for RTMM.  I am not sure how to proceed, since TFX is no longer available as far as I know.  I am hoping a member with more knowledge will join the thread.  If you already own TFX, you're ok.  But how to buy it in 2021, I don't know. ???

     I am hoping OrbxDirect will pick it up and offer it in their store.  Seems logical to me.   :-\  But I know nothing.   :P
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: NM_Stan on January 04, 2021, 10:46:58 PM
Thanks Jeff for the effort.  I've installed everything else and as best I can tell it works.  BUT, I tried several areas and nothing seems to show up.  I guess that I'm up a creek without a parachute until either Tongass can be made available or a work around is developed by TWKWTAD.  If you have any suggestions for places to try I'll give them a go.  Thanx again, Stan
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: nbrich1 on January 05, 2021, 06:40:10 AM
Couldn't find it for sale anywhere Stan... but just found this notification: which would explain why it's no longer available.  (LINK: https://fssupport.com/fsaddon/?p=3040).

FSAddon is closing its doors
By francois On December 24, 2020 ·

Dear all,

first of all let me wish you a Merry Christmas, even when in lockdown or otherwise limited. Hopefully, you are all still healthy. Also hopefully, next year will see a return to normalcy, and no, not the ‘new normal’, the regular one. Here’s hoping.

Talking about next year….. the reason I am writing here is that I have decided to stop my commercial activities under FSAddon Publishing. It is getting too expensive, and too much work. Too much for the time I still have to spend on it, and too much for my age, I guess. Even though we are spending most of the time at home here in Italy, forced by the circumstances, I seem to be running out of time most every day. I guess the slower tempo of living and moving has to do with it ,-)

Anyway, after all these years of FSAddon it is a tough decision. But with the advent of the new MSFS the sales have now dropped to almost nothing, and the cost of the websites has not gone down. So it just does not make sense to continue. Most of my work these days is responding to former customers who managed to lose their downloads and request new links and registration keys.

As of January 1st the Shopify Shop will be off-line. It also means support for previously sold products will be a problem because I am not continuing the almost daily efforts I still put in currently. More like once a week. And over some time the server contracts holding the software will also lapse, making the downloads no longer available.

It has been a long road, sometimes bumpy, never boring, and I think together with my developers we have brought some joy to flightsimmers all over the world.

I will now try and build my own home cockpit before it is too late and either Covid or old age catches up…. You will still find me on various forums from time to time.

Best regards,
Francois
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: nbrich1 on January 05, 2021, 07:07:02 AM
I searched for this commercial download since Stan has notified.  It is not available for sale!

In that regard, perhaps the owners here might contact Francois, if possible, to attain non-selling freeware permission or distribution rights to make the product available here on this site since it is critical for RTMM scenery in the Tongass Area.

There would be no issue or no need to do approach the developer if this commercial product was still available but it clearly is not. This product, which RTMM still requires availability, has been removed from the commercial market by the developer and the website closed. 

As with other developers who have removed their products from the commercial market, they usually offer or make available these products as freeware products for any who may want them. Such devs, just to name a few: Aerosoft, Orbx, Iris, Golden Age, IblueYonder, A2A etc etc

Anyways just a thought.
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: stiletto2 on January 05, 2021, 10:01:53 AM
At the request of Doug and Brad, I have reached out to Francois and FSAddon to see if anything can be worked out to enable our new and future users to acquire TFX.  I hoping for a reply if Francois is still reading his FSAddon email.  We do not have his personal email.

I will let you know if we are able to improve the current situation in any way.

Rod
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: nbrich1 on January 05, 2021, 11:13:09 AM
Sounds good Rod.. Thank-you sir.

Norm
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: jeff3163 on January 05, 2021, 11:20:59 AM
Thank you, Doug, Brad, & Rod.   8)

We may also have to consider a future version of RTMM that does not include TFX as a requirement.  Is that an option?   :-\
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: corbu1 on January 05, 2021, 02:51:07 PM
At the request of Doug and Brad, I have reached out to Francois and FSAddon to see if anything can be worked out to enable our new and future users to acquire TFX.  I hoping for a reply if Francois is still reading his FSAddon email.  We do not have his personal email.

I will let you know if we are able to improve the current situation in any way.

Rod

Thank you for your efforts!!

The closure of FSaddon is really sad news. :'(


TFX is really so important for RTMM world......
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: ualani on January 05, 2021, 07:31:17 PM
Hopefully Rod can convince the developers that the sales of TF software were greatly enhanced by RTMM members, and they can come to some sort of agreement that allows us to distribute it in some form. Freeware??

Steve
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: Francois on January 14, 2021, 09:41:35 AM
Hi all,

neither Holger nor I thought about RTMM...... sorry for that lapse of memory. But you know, at least I have an excuse, nearing 70 and with over 35 years in this business now...... and OUT of it at least commercially :-)

Anyway, after Rod contacted us, Holger and I conferred and we decided that RTMM can have the source of TFX to distribute to its members. I just wrote Brad and sent him the necessary files.

And no, it is NOT going to Orbx, for reasons that those who know me are well aware of.
I hope RTMM can continue to flourish this way, and wishing you all a better year than we just had all over the world!

Kindest regards,
Francois
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: jeff3163 on January 14, 2021, 10:01:21 AM
Thank you, Francois.  Greatly appreciated.  That is wonderful.   8)
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: corbu1 on January 14, 2021, 12:13:03 PM
Thank you so much, Francois!

I‘m speechless......this is so wonderful news.
You keep the heart of RTMM world alive.....This is so beautiful.

Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: John on January 14, 2021, 03:12:31 PM
What a great guy.  Thank you, Francois!

John
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: Francois on January 14, 2021, 03:34:57 PM
Thanks goes also to Holger and Bill, the developers of Tongass.....
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: av8erjm on January 14, 2021, 05:47:55 PM
Double WOW such a generous offer thank you for your decision
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: Dan on January 15, 2021, 02:44:11 AM
Thank you Francois, Holger, and Bill.  Very kind of you for doing this.
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: Dieter on January 15, 2021, 03:20:22 AM
This is a very noble and extremely generous offer from you, Francois! Thank you very much for that!

TongassX was one of the best scenery software ever created for FSX / P3D. Thanks also to Holger Sandmann and Bill Womack.

Dieter
(former "Westwood Inn" - today "PNW Back Country Pilots")
Maybe you remember the meeting in "Räuberkeller"/Germany many years ago?
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: NeptuneP2V7 on January 15, 2021, 07:34:40 AM
Hopefully Rod can convince the developers that the sales of TF software were greatly enhanced by RTMM members, and they can come to some sort of agreement that allows us to distribute it in some form. Freeware??

Steve

Have you do a ticket for ???  ;)
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: ualani on January 15, 2021, 08:19:39 AM
Thank you very much. Your unselfish gift to RTMM is so greatly appreciated by all of us!

Steve
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: Bradallen43 on January 15, 2021, 10:01:10 AM
Fantastic news. Many thanks to Francois and Holger.
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: Francois on January 15, 2021, 02:40:00 PM
This is a very noble and extremely generous offer from you, Francois! Thank you very much for that!

TongassX was one of the best scenery software ever created for FSX / P3D. Thanks also to Holger Sandmann and Bill Womack.

Dieter
(former "Westwood Inn" - today "PNW Back Country Pilots")
Maybe you remember the meeting in "Räuberkeller"/Germany many years ago?

Hi Dieter,

I sure do..... long time ago, but great times !!!

Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: NM_Stan on January 24, 2021, 02:32:10 PM
Hello all,  Anything further on the availability of Tongass Fjords???  Regards, Stan
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: stiletto2 on January 24, 2021, 02:44:47 PM
Hi Stan,

Did you not see the announcement in the Notams area?  Here is link:

https://forum.mistymoorings.com/index.php?topic=2044.msg44007#new (https://forum.mistymoorings.com/index.php?topic=2044.msg44007#new)

Rod
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: nbrich1 on January 24, 2021, 05:08:13 PM
Hello all,  Anything further on the availability of Tongass Fjords???  Regards, Stan

Check your PM Stan.. I sent you a note last week on it.. now available. PM me with your email ID: and voila will receive.

Norm
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: Penzoil3 on January 24, 2021, 08:01:06 PM
Thanks  Francois. I have a copy, but I know people who lost theirs. This is wonderful.
 Sue
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: NM_Stan on January 25, 2021, 09:39:50 PM
Hello All,  Got the file and unzipped it.  Installed it on FSX:SE and got a message: "HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Microsoft games\Flight Simulator\10.0" registry setup path not found.  Started FSX:SE and to cut a long story short, TF higher priority seems OK but TF lower priority doesn't work correctly.  Tried to install on an older, Windows 7 machine but installer wants to use F:\FTS but that machine doesn't have an F drive.  It will start to install on the C drive where FSX resides but latterly tries to write to the F drive which doesn't exist.

I'd prefer to stay on the R11 and with FSX:SE.  Ideas, suggestions, workarounds, ???
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: nbrich1 on January 26, 2021, 10:53:55 AM
Hello All,  Got the file and unzipped it.  Installed it on FSX:SE and got a message: "HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Microsoft games\Flight Simulator\10.0" registry setup path not found.  Started FSX:SE and to cut a long story short, TF higher priority seems OK but TF lower priority doesn't work correctly.  Tried to install on an older, Windows 7 machine but installer wants to use F:\FTS but that machine doesn't have an F drive.  It will start to install on the C drive where FSX resides but latterly tries to write to the F drive which doesn't exist.

I'd prefer to stay on the R11 and with FSX:SE.  Ideas, suggestions, workarounds, ???


Tongass is designed to into to FSX (Boxed Verson). Not FSE-SE or P3D.
And Tongass looks at the registry to find the FSX path (or the designated path).

So... 
(from a Holgerpost that is still intact), see:  http://fssupport.com/fsaddonforum/index.php?topic=88.0)

1. use a FSX registry tool to temporarily direct the FSX-SE registry path to a temp folder. For that to work you need to also place a copy of the FSX-SE "fsx.exe" file as well as the FSX-SE "terrain.cfg" file into the temp folder. Then run the installer into the temp folder.

2. use the file list provided in the first post in this thread -- http://fssupport.com/fsaddonforum/index.php?topic=34.0 -- to manually copy all TFX files and folders to your FSX-SE installation. Then manually add the two TFX entries to the scenery library menu and the block of TFX entries (also attached to that thread) into your FSX-SE terrain.cfg file.
... ...


Now the FSX Registry utility tool in item #1 (that is one of the easiest to use is by tweakfs. This will allow you to establish and set up your registry to create an empty/dummy FSX installation folder to any location.

LINK: To the tweakfs Free Tools page:  https://www.tweakfs.com/store/free_tools.php

Direct Link to this FSX registry utility:
https://tweakfs.com/store/download_file.php?f=tweakfs_zip_fsx.zip&s=9942d36011a6ac3ef46e540f6e9d778b&d=58d407867dc43d93423c3d9853ce380f&t=1611675470

Download and extract the zip file to temp folder, run FILE: FSXRegUtility.exe. (Click file below to download this registry tool - from tweakfs). FSX_reg_utility.zip

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So trying to get Tongass into FSX-SE is like trying to get Tongass into P3D.

Need FSX Registry to a temp FSX path..
Install Tongass to that temp path/folder
Move all of the folders and files over to the FSX-SE paths
Update the Terrain.cfg file.
Add the two entries to the scenery library.

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It follows the same procedure for the Tongass into P3D install..

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/491556-installing-tongass-fjords-x-prepar3d-v3-v4/


Try it and if you have any probs just yell.

Norm

Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: NM_Stan on January 27, 2021, 07:56:59 PM
Hello All,  Just want to thank you all for the help.  Everything is installed and except for TF minor everything appears to be working correctly.  I've been v-flying since SubLogic days and I can truthfully say that the TF scenery is the best I've ever seen!  Going to polish up the Goose and get to flying!  Thanks again for all the help.  Stan
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: nbrich1 on January 27, 2021, 10:00:40 PM
Glad all is working Stan. Have fun in the Misty Fjords.

Norm
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: stiletto2 on January 28, 2021, 04:57:15 PM
Hi Stan,

That is great news.  Have fun!

Rod
Title: Re: Tongass Fjords and FsAddon
Post by: Garry on May 08, 2021, 01:41:12 PM
Just seeing this...

thank you so much for your generosity guys, greatest ever release!