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Title: Question
Post by: John on May 07, 2019, 02:56:06 PM
Hi all, is anyone using or know anything about "FreeMeshX Global Terrain Mesh Scenery 2.0" from Nine Two Productions?  If so does it conflict with Orbx Base, Vector etc?

John
Title: Re: Question
Post by: Penzoil3 on May 07, 2019, 07:09:43 PM
OrbX is designed on the Pilot's FSGX2010 mesh.  Having said that, I will say that a lot of people on the OrbX forums use the FreeMesh and report no problems with it.
 Sue
Title: Re: Question
Post by: nbrich1 on May 07, 2019, 08:44:06 PM
It works fine John. Just one issue that I know of. When flying the BWEP - One you get north on the Richardson Hwy segment, turn off the Freemesh X for the USA area as it throws the pipes alignment off a bit but then most mesh does the same.  In other words, the pipes are not perfectly aligned when mesh is active. But other than that, it works great, and for all over the world if you download all of the pieces. and it's free!!
Title: Re: Question
Post by: John on May 07, 2019, 10:42:38 PM
Sue, Norm: Thank you 8) BTW Norm, got my GTX980 but waiting on bigger power supply  ::)

John
Title: Re: Question
Post by: kaha on May 08, 2019, 03:23:46 AM
...got my GTX980...

That's nice! Let us know how it performs.

Karl
Title: Re: Question
Post by: nbrich1 on May 08, 2019, 07:21:15 AM
GTX1080 Nice John. And power supply- of course! - Your GTX1080 (alike my 970) takes an eight pin connector (or equivalent- 6+2pin) hence the need for a new power supply- more connectors/power cables required.

Yep, like you, I had to update my power supply unit when I did my first GPU update to that GTX970 a couple of years ago: (My older power supply only had one 6 pin GPU connector and didn't have the required 8 pin power connector (not even a 6+2 pin) to hook up the 970- so replace the power supply - but that was well worth it.       

More power, Arg, yup upgrades need more power!

Great John, should be a big improvement when your all hooked up.

Norm


Title: Re: Question
Post by: John on May 08, 2019, 03:21:13 PM
Getting giddy  ::) 8)

John
Title: Re: Question
Post by: nbrich1 on May 08, 2019, 03:25:00 PM
For sure!! Like a kid in a candystore!! but that type of candy can get very expensive!! lol.

Title: Re: Question
Post by: ArJuna on May 24, 2019, 06:05:49 PM
I use Pilot's FS Global Ultimate Next Gen mesh and I own most ORBX products. I have had numerous issues with ORBX region, ORBX free and paid airports, and default P3D airport elevations even at the typical ORBX recommended 5m setting in P3D. I can usually work them out using a combination of ORBX Vector Airport Elevation Correction (AEC), Pilot's AFM2 AEC software, and sometimes I have to go searching for all instances of files which contain the ICAO for the airport in question to disable an offending airport correction file that the former do not correct. I don't know if FreeMesh has an AEC tool, since I've never used it. If it does, then try the various combinations using it along with Vector.

Be sure to try all combinations of enabling/disabling AEC in Vector and AFM (or FreeMesh tool) before digging for files. Sometimes even after using these tools I have to go and find some buried airport elevation correction file and disable or enable it manually. These are found in under the scenery folder in FSX and P3D. There are a few cases where some (typically) obscure airport just won't ever be quite right.

I prefer to stick with the FSGU NG mesh because it does look amazing in VFR flight and in some areas it makes all the difference, such as my home airport and area of KGAI where ORBX only has the OpenLC coverage.

If I am flying to a new airport I will load up the sim at that airport to ensure the airport is not in need of some adjustment. Nothing more frustrating than losing your immersion after setting up a complex flight plan in a PMDG aircraft and arriving at an airport whose taxiways and runways are like tunnels 50 feet under the surrounding land.   :-\

All that said, most airports work just fine.
Title: Re: Question
Post by: John on May 25, 2019, 05:33:28 PM
Hi all, well I'm a little less giddy now :( can't get power to my monitor with the 980 :'( took the card to a tecky yesterday.  He said it was good and worked great, thought maybe my motherboard (MSI785) wouldn't handle it :o.  So maybe get new motherboard for Christmas :)

John
Title: Re: Question
Post by: nbrich1 on May 25, 2019, 06:33:48 PM
980 fits the n you pcie slot and has 8pin power connector ( or a 6 pin plus 2 pin)  If you don't have that you won't have enough power to power the 980 and hence won't be able power the monitor display.. also depending on which connection/port you are using for the monitor to the the 980 you might have to adjust the input in the monitor to match the port used.

If your  PC guy tested the 980  card ok.. you might simply take your box in and  just get them to install your 980 for you. If they can't get it working in your box they will surely know why..
Title: Re: Question
Post by: John on May 26, 2019, 04:10:40 AM
Hi Norm, the 980 tested good, it has 2 6-pin connectors.  The seller mentioned maybe changing the monitor port but I don't know exactly where to find those ports to change ??? but I'll keep on poking around :)

John
Title: Re: Question
Post by: kaha on May 26, 2019, 07:31:50 AM
I found this in an MSI 785 mainboard documentation. Maybe you have to switch from the MoBo integrated graphic card to the PCIE graphic card.

Which MSI 785 MoBo do you have exactly?

By the way: my GTX980 (Asus) has one 8-pin and 1 6-pin power connector.

Karl
Title: Re: Question
Post by: nbrich1 on May 26, 2019, 11:36:47 AM
Hi Norm, the 980 tested good, it has 2 6-pin connectors.  The seller mentioned maybe changing the monitor port but I don't know exactly where to find those ports to change ??? but I'll keep on poking around :)

John


There is adapters for just about any monitor connections from vga to dvi to HDMI to display port.s..you just might need the correct cable and or adapter to plug into to that 980.
Title: Re: Question
Post by: nbrich1 on May 26, 2019, 11:40:08 AM
Hi Norm, the 980 tested good, it has 2 6-pin connectors.  The seller mentioned maybe changing the monitor port but I don't know exactly where to find those ports to change ??? but I'll keep on poking around :)

John


There are adapters for just about any type of monitor connections from vga to DVI I or DVI D or HDMI or display ports..you just might need the correct cable and or adapter to plug your monitor  into that 980. Your PC store should have all the variations.
Title: Re: Question
Post by: kaha on May 26, 2019, 12:50:25 PM
John, be aware that on the GTX980 the DVI port is the primary display port (the one that shows the MoBo bios)

Karl
Title: Re: Question
Post by: John on May 26, 2019, 04:23:18 PM
Karl and Norm,
I have new AVGA 600w power supply with 2 connectors for 6+2 pins.  Been using GT240 card in PCIE slot, not using MoBo card.  Don't know how to find or change ports ::).  I do have DVI-VGA adapter.  Don't know which MSI 785 MoBo I have :-\ maybe can find out if I reboot :)

John
Title: Re: Question
Post by: stiletto2 on May 26, 2019, 06:12:41 PM
The ports being referred to are the I/O connector ports on the end of the GTX 980 card.  See pic below.  The DVI port is the one at the top of the pic.

Rod
Title: Re: Question
Post by: John on May 27, 2019, 12:09:47 AM
Ok Rod, that's the port I connect to, thanks :)

Karl, my MoBo is MSI 785GM-E65 :)

John
Title: Re: Question
Post by: John on May 27, 2019, 07:05:32 PM
Hi all, just wondering if anyone else is using an Athlon ll dual core 2.9 GHZ cpu or if everyone is way faster than mine ???

John
Title: Re: Question
Post by: stiletto2 on May 28, 2019, 11:43:07 PM
John,
 
When you said early in the thread that you weren't getting power to your monitor, did you mean that as far as you can tell, the GTX 980 has power (fans are spinning) but the monitor does not seem to be receiving a display signal from the GTX980?   If so, the problem may be the cable connection between the GTX980 DVI port and your monitor.  Does you monitor have a DVI input?  In other words are using a simple DVI monitor cable with the same male connector on both ends?  What is your monitor make and model?

Rod
Title: Re: Question
Post by: John on May 29, 2019, 04:30:52 PM
Rod, my monitor is Dell SE2416H, has ports for VGA and HDMI.  I'm using DVI-VGA adapter on VGA cable.  Tried HDMI hookup but it didn't work either.  :o

John
Title: Re: Question
Post by: nbrich1 on May 29, 2019, 05:14:52 PM
980 should have - 1-DVI-I, 1-HDMI 2.0, and a couple of DisplayPorts.

Not sure but don't think VGA can be adapted to DVI-I, (but VGA can adapt to DVI-D I think). But check if you monitor has an input setting to change it to VGA.

Now the best test would be to use HDMI calbe direct between the 980 and the monitor.  Do you have a straight HDMI cable kicking around (or maybe take one from the TV to try it in the 980 and your monitor again). This is a direct connect. Check/Change the input to auto on your monitor, or if no auto input, manually change to HDMI. If no go, your card is not working as required in your computer! But we figured that already! 
Either your PCI-E slot can't support the 980 card or you don't have the PSU hook up requirements to fully power that GPU. I dunno John.  If no work, take that box in to the PC guy!
 
Title: Re: Question
Post by: John on May 29, 2019, 05:29:29 PM
Thanks for the input Norm :) I'll try a different HDMI cable.  I know a great puter guru in Rapid Cty (31/2 hr drive) ::).  Probably gonna take it to him when I have time and money to do it :)

John
Title: Re: Question
Post by: John on June 06, 2019, 03:05:01 PM
Hi all, I have an update.  My computer guru couldn't find anything wrong with the GTX980 or with any other components in my PC.  He tried it on 2 other MOBOs ( older than mine and with less power ) and it worked just fine.  Only thing he can think of is that it just doesn't play well with my stuff.  So he installed a GTX260 in mine and it's a great improvement over the GT240 ;D.  So I'm good to go until I can upgrade my MOBO and cpu 8).
Need help with the FreeMeshX I have downloaded ::).  I have no idea how to install it ( no instructions ) :(
Thanks in advance :D

John
Title: Re: Question
Post by: nbrich1 on June 06, 2019, 04:40:46 PM
Extract the FreeMeshX rar files to a temp directory. Which ever ones you have downloaded.

Place extracted scenery folders in your addon scenery folder (FSX) IE:

 
FreeMeshX - North America \ scenery



Add the scenery folders by continent in your sim scenery library.. The FreeMeshX patches scenery folder goes on top of the other FreeMeshX folders.

FreeMeshX - Patches \ scenery
FreeMeshX - North America \ scenery

Manually sequence all mesh folders right above the above the block of 5 FTX Global Vector Entries (If you have vector. (If you don't have vector - all the mesh folders go right above numbered default scenery folders). And below FTX OpenLC Scenery.

Mesh is just scenery folders.. set them up the same as any scenery.. except that they much be positioned as indicated.

Scenery blocks in pic appended. (Freemesh X Mesh goes in the exact same block/positition as the FSGlobal 2010 entries is indicated on the pic below:


Title: Re: Question
Post by: John on June 06, 2019, 09:10:24 PM
Thank you Norm, I'll see if I can wrap my brain around that ::)

John
Title: Re: Question
Post by: nbrich1 on June 06, 2019, 10:41:43 PM
Install guide (A bit old) still exists on the ninetwopro site and shows the folders, files and scenery entries and order for your scenery library.

LINK: http://ninetwopro.com/freemeshx/fmx-installation/

The block location shown on their pic is not correct for mesh.. but the rest on how to do it looks ok.

Norm


Correct Mesh block position indicated below:
Title: Re: Question
Post by: John on June 06, 2019, 10:54:07 PM
Ok, thanks :)