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Return to Misty Moorings (FSX/P3D/MSFS2020) => Help and Troubleshooting => Topic started by: GrayRider on February 21, 2013, 05:33:13 PM
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I installed your upgrade for Totam Bright today.I did download the correct upgrade to use,because I do have the ORBX PAKT SP1 addon.
Before I installed the upgrade.I deleted my previous version of Totam Bright v1.0.It does show up,when I go to it.When I go up the ramp and taxi up onto the deck.There I'm a little bit sunk into the deck in front of the hanger.Maybe I have an elevation issue,but not sure?.
I did install the optional VFR flight from PAKT to Totam Bright Lodge.When I select the flight it doesn't load up?.The other flight from Misty's Place to totam lodge does load up.
I'm curious what I shold be seeing,when I'm at the lodge?.When I go to the scenery page to download the upgrade.I clicked on the picture there.What I'm seeing is different,than what the picture is showing?.
Maybe I shouldn't have deleted my previous version.The upgrade may have been an extention of version v1.0?.
Oops.I may have put my question in the wrong topic.
GrayRider
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Hello George,
Can you post some pics of exactly what you're seeing?
I just installed Totem Bight Operations Center onto my system, after reading your post. I disabled the previous versions and installed this one "as-is" from the zipfile. I added it to my scenery library. It's not dependent on the previous versions at all. Here's some pics I snapped.
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/jeff3163/MOON/Flight%20Simulator%20X%20Files/2013/fsx2013-02-2118-08-47-16.jpg)
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/jeff3163/MOON/Flight%20Simulator%20X%20Files/2013/fsx2013-02-2118-09-41-06.jpg)
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/jeff3163/MOON/Flight%20Simulator%20X%20Files/2013/fsx2013-02-2118-11-30-69.jpg)
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/jeff3163/MOON/Flight%20Simulator%20X%20Files/2013/fsx2013-02-2118-30-51-12.jpg)
8) Thanks Doug. ;)
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Jeff.
I down loaded the zip that say's in red.Use this one if you have PAKT SP1,and I do have the ORBX PAKT SP1 installed.When I looked at the contents in this one.The thumb nail pic,shows something else.Maybe theres two different ones,such as Totam Bright Lodge and Totam Bright Operations Center?.
In the meantime.I downloaded the other totam bright zip.Now I see what I should be seeing.The only thing I see is.The house to the right,that sits by itself.There is a car,kind of behind the house.The car is sitting on the water.Otherwise the addon is fine etc.
GrayRider
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2383.jpg)
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I'll admit I don't fly the flight plans much, just crank r' up and go. However I looked at the Totem Bight download again regarding the flight plan and FWIW I can not get it to load into my sim. First thing is it says Totem Bay Lodge which is incorrect should be Operations Center. I even re-copied it from the down load to my flight plan folder (FSX default location) and there is something wrong with the flight plan as it simi-loads but displays unknown for the starting position and nothing for the destination.
All the above being said the location should be Totem Bight Operations Center and that should be reflected on the flight plan. With Dieter's CVS files Plan G shows it across from Murphy's Pullout with that name too.
I do not have FTX PAKT so can not comment on that particular download.
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I believe that the old flight plan does not work due to it being copied from the old scenery file and not made over with the new location as the destination. FWIW not being Plan G literate I have kludged together a flight plan that will at least load in the sim and move your A/C to the starting point (PAKT). Because Doug is on vacation this week I'm going to attach that plan to this post. Try it and see if it will direct you to Totem Bight Operations Center. The old plan said ..... Lodge which is incorrect.
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Boy, it seems to me that if a person were to start at Murphy's Pullout instead of PAKT, they'd already be at Totem Bight before they even take off. Just a short taxi to the North, eh? :o Why do we need a 2 mile long flightplan? ???
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My question also is.
When looking at the scenery down load page of Totam Bright,sceen in my screenshot.Is Totam Bright Lodge and Totam Bright Operations Center two different scenerys,or both rolled into one?.
If Jeff didn't deleted the previous version.Than I'd think I'm dealing with two different Totam Bright,side by side locations etc.
I'll probably reinstall the previous version,and see what happens.I'll get some shots of that one,and post them etc.
GrayRider
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FYI,
The original edition of Totem Bight That I did was for default PFJ and not the SP1 edition. I believe Doug also did the latest version for default PAKT and not SP1.
Brad
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When I deleted my previous version of Totam Bright Operation Center.I didn't save it.Like Jeff mentioned.He didn't delete the previous version of Totam Bright Operations Center,before he installed the latest version,seen in my screenshot above.
I want to get the previous version back,if I can find it,and have a look at what was there.
In the screenshot above.The two download zips to choose from are different Totam Bright Operations Centers scenery's.One file is bigger than the other.
Some how I want to install both addons of Totam Bright.
GrayRider
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I didn't delete anything. I just unchecked it from my scenery library.
Only use one version of the scenery location at a time. Don't combine any of them.
I am not using the Orbx SP1 PAKT airport, so I can't comment on that. But the regular version works for me.
( . . . and it's not "Totam Bright", it's "Totem Bight"!) ;)
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You can install both but don't try to make both active at the same time in FSX. Also, I don't even see the version I did for RTMM, it's been replaced by Doug's newer version, so not sure why that happened.
Brad
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:o . . . It occurs to me that Doug doesn't use the Orbx PAKT SP1 airport either. So how's he gonna make a version for it? ??? (even though there is that button for the SP1 version there.) That's the question. :o
I just swapped out my version for the one Grayrider is trying to work with, to see what shows up and where. I tried to drive up the ramp. The deck and ramp aren't hardened, I guess. :-[
Does this look like what you've got, GrayRider? ???
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/jeff3163/MOON/Flight%20Simulator%20X%20Files/2013/fsx2013-02-2220-32-37-81.jpg)
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/jeff3163/MOON/Flight%20Simulator%20X%20Files/2013/fsx2013-02-2220-33-29-78.jpg)
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/jeff3163/MOON/Flight%20Simulator%20X%20Files/2013/fsx2013-02-2220-34-23-62.jpg)
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/jeff3163/MOON/Flight%20Simulator%20X%20Files/2013/fsx2013-02-2220-35-04-70.jpg)
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The new version of Totem Bight Operation Center, as stated, is only for PFJ default.
The "zip" at the bottom of the page, which is for those who have Orbx PAKT SP1, is the old "zip" which dates from January 2012.
I have Orbx PAKT SP1 and I had already installed the scene Totem Bight Operation Center which is in this "zip".
There is nothing new to the owners of Orbx PAKT SP1 ;)
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:o . . . It occurs to me that Doug doesn't use the Orbx PAKT SP1 airport either. So how's he gonna make a version for it? ??? (even though there is that button for the SP1 version there.) That's the question. :o
I just swapped out my version for the one Grayrider is trying to work with, to see what shows up and where. I tried to drive up the ramp. The deck and ramp aren't hardened, I guess. :-[
Does this look like what you've got, GrayRider? ???
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/jeff3163/MOON/Flight%20Simulator%20X%20Files/2013/fsx2013-02-2220-32-37-81.jpg)
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/jeff3163/MOON/Flight%20Simulator%20X%20Files/2013/fsx2013-02-2220-33-29-78.jpg)
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/jeff3163/MOON/Flight%20Simulator%20X%20Files/2013/fsx2013-02-2220-34-23-62.jpg)
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/jeff3163/MOON/Flight%20Simulator%20X%20Files/2013/fsx2013-02-2220-35-04-70.jpg)
Yes Jeff.This is the one I previously had,and deleted it.In my screenshot.The zip that says in red.Use this one if you have PAKT SP1.The PAKT SP1 download is the one seen in your screenshot.
The other zip download is the the newest one of Totem Bright seen in your other previous upgraded screenshots of Totem Bright Operation Center.I can't really use this one,because I have the ORBX PAKT SP1 installed.
GrayRider.
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I can't really use this one,because I have the ORBX PAKT SP1 installed.
Why not, exactly? Is the shoreline different? Does it look funny with the new one installed? What makes it "unusable"? ???
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Okay, well I'm getting the story straight now. Thanks Jeff for sharing your pictures. The shots that Jeff shows just above are from the Totem Bight scenery I did for the DEFAULT PFJ Ketchikan area. NOT PAKT airport, which is the payware addition from ORBX/FTX that enhances the shorelines, town and most importantly the airport. So, when I did this design, that is currently labeled incorrectly as being made for PAKT with SP1, it is actually for the default PFJ region.
And another thing, putting an "SP1 only" designation is misleading. PAKT payware airport and Service Pack 1 (SP1) are two separate products. So saying PAKT w/SP1 will not do anything but further confuse people. We need to separate those. There is a "SP1" but it is just an acronym for a cumulative patch for the ENTIRE Pacific Fjords region that everybody needs to install. And then there is the PAKT "Payware" airport that you can choose to purchase.
So, if you have the PAKT payware airport installed and active in your simulator, you will not have any Totem Bight scenery correctly installed. That is because Doug and I designed our scenery editions for the PFJ default version in mind.
The confusion is coming from some wording on our scenery page that will get corrected once Doug returns from his cruise. Once again, there is no PAKT payware airport compatible scenery made by us for Totem Bight. Now, I don't use PAKT payware so I don't know how my scenery looks there. And I would need to see some pictures of that to find out what's being seen on your end GrayRider.
So everybody please remember that 99% of our scenery is ONLY made to work with the DEFAULT PFJ scenery region. NOT the PAKT payware airport!!!!!! There is only one scenery that I did that is and that is a CIRP Office at PAKT for the payware airport. I believe Jeff made another CIRP office just down the hill from mine for the payware airport as well. That's all I can remember being done by us for the payware airport.
Hope this clears things up.
Brad
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Thanks Brad.
I do have the ORBX PAKT payware installed.I also have the Pacific Fjords SP1 patch installed.I know I have a shore line issue,using either one of the two zip downloads seen in the download page.
The last patch I have installed for Pacific Fjords(PFJ)v1.0 is Patch 003 dated November 2012.If there's a newer patch I don't have it
My ORBX PAKT installed is still v1.0 and no patches that I'm aware of.
I will probably install both Totem Bright Operations Centers,and I know I can only activate one of them for use at a time etc.
GrayRider
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Hello Brad,
However, the version of Totem_Bight_Operations_Center_02, which is in the "zip" noted "only for Orbx PAKT", which is of January 2012 and that I have installed at that time, is designed for those who have the paid version of PAKT Orbx.
Here is what is noted in the Readme.txt :
" RETURN TO MISTY MOORINGS
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NAME
Totem Bight Operations Center (V 2.0)
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STORYLINE
This scenery is a complete redesign to the previous version 1.0 which was made for the default Pacific Fjords and Ketchikan area.
In addition to the FTX Scenery for "Pacific Fjords" installed, you'll also need to have the ORBX FTX payware airport for Ketchikan, (PAKT) installed as well to see this scenery correctly.
The shorelines of the default PFJ region have been updated with that airport and this scenery now fits the newer version.
If you do NOT have the PAKT payware airport from ORBX, and only use the default Pacific Fjords package scenery then use the Totem Bight Operations Center version 1.0 and not this one.
IMPORTANT NOTE: Changes from version 1.0 to version 2.0.
The Totem Bight lodge has been removed. It didn't fit the surrounding terrain anymore.
The nearby paper mill that was also included in version 1.0 is also removed. The ORBX update for PAKT adds buildings there. So ours were out of place and I got rid of them.
The floating hangar surface had to be extended out into the water more to accomodate the new shorelines better.
Removed the small "Kenmore Air" trailer near the shore of the dock.
Moved the aircraft parts building over to the other side of the floating hangar.
Moved the office building up on the hill behind the floating hangar.
Removed all the bird objects for better framerates. I had too many. I may add more to the Ketchikan area in the future.
A fishing and float plane dock as well as a float plane hangar and office are on these grounds. Be sure to take "Bob" for a closer look inside the floating repair hangar where work is done on aircraft.
Located near PAKT, it's a convenient starting point to begin discovering the Misty Fjords area.
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DESIGNER CREDITS
Scenery created by Brad Allen
Story by Brad Allen "
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Okay then Doug did a version for the payware airport and that is the one GrayRider should use.
Brad
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I installed the Totem Bright Operation Center 02.I did not download the other one that mentions in Red.If you have PAKT SP1,use this one.
Here are seven screenshots I just took a few minutes ago.So I still have some shoreline issues as well as where the small cabin is,so I can watch the big boats go by,as mentioned?.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2391.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2390.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2389.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2388.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2387.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2386.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2385.jpg)
Let me know what you all see in these screenshots.or what might be going on etc.
GrayRider
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I installed the Totem Bright Operation Center 02.I did not download the other one that mentions in Red.If you have PAKT SP1,use this one.
Here are seven screenshots I just took a few minutes ago.So I still have some shoreline issues as well as where the small cabin is,so I can watch the big boats go by,as mentioned?.
Please note.When I installed the othere download,with the note in red.Jeff asked me if I was seeing what he sees in his second set of screenshots.I quoted his question to me,that I was seeing the same thing.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2391.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2390.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2389.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2388.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2387.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2386.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2385.jpg)
Let me know what you all see in these screenshots.or what might be going on etc.
GrayRider
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I don't know what to say other than this. If you are using PAKT and it is the payware airport, then you should use ONLY the Totem Bight scenery made for PAKT with that Addon. If there is red text saying "Use this with the payware airport" then use that.
SP1 is not going to do a thing to your shorelines. PAKT payware airport WILL do something to your shorelines. Mesh settings will too. Make sure yours is at ORBX recommended setting of 5.
Can somebody else help explain or am I the one that's confused here?
Brad
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That is Doug's new version. Use the "Totem Bight Operations Center 2" instead.
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To answer you, GrayRider :)
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I downloaded and installed the other zip,with the red notation about have PAKT and SP1 etc.
Here are some shots of that one:
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2393.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2395.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2397.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2398.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2399.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2400.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2401.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2402.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2403.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2404.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/grayrider/screenshot2405.jpg)
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;)
This is what Totem Bight looks like in real life:
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/jeff3163/MOON/Flight%20Simulator%20X%20Files/2013/TotemBightmarina.jpg)
. . . and the same spot in FSX!?! ???
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/jeff3163/MOON/Flight%20Simulator%20X%20Files/2013/fsx2013-02-2416-40-44-23.jpg)
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/jeff3163/MOON/Flight%20Simulator%20X%20Files/2013/fsx2013-02-2416-57-21-97.jpg)
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I didn't look for the lodge,when I added these shots.I'll go have another look.Is the lodge past the ops center,at the right of it?.
GrayRider
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I saw your added shotsmoments ago.
In my last set of shots.I'll have to stick with it,since I have the ORBX PAKT and SP1 installed.Is there or will there be a fix to harden the surface,on the hanger deck?.Which is seen in my last screenshots.
GrayRider
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I didn't look for the lodge,when I added these shots.I'll go have another look.Is the lodge past the ops center,at the right of it?.
GrayRider
Yep, boy you're quick. You're not gonna find that building. Sorry (I posted a pic of the "lodge at Totem Bight", but removed it ALMOST immediately). I've pulled the pic from the post, but too late, I guess. (That is from an old version I have on my hard drive. It's not in the scenery anymore.)
Here's an aerial of what you've got. The "lodge" would have been where the wing of the plane is at.
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/jeff3163/MOON/Flight%20Simulator%20X%20Files/2013/fsx2013-02-2417-10-49-89.jpg)
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I didn't look for the lodge,when I added these shots.I'll go have another look.Is the lodge past the ops center,at the right of it?.
GrayRider
Yep, boy you're quick. You're not gonna find that building. Sorry (I posted a pic of the "lodge at Totem Bight", but removed it ALMOST immediately). I've pulled the pic from the post, but too late, I guess. That is from an old version I have on my hard drive. It's not in the scenery anymore. Here's an aerial of what you've got. The "lodge" would have been where the wing of the plane is at.
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/jeff3163/MOON/Flight%20Simulator%20X%20Files/2013/fsx2013-02-2417-10-49-89.jpg)
As I mentioned.I'll have to stick with Totem Bright Operations Center I now have.I hope they come out with an update,to make the ramp and deck solid,so I'm not sunk down in it,as you can see in my last screenshots.
GrayRider
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Boy this is getting completely bumfuddled the more it is discussed. First and foremost unless I'm completely confused Doug has NOT I repeat NOT done any version 2 of Totem Bight Operations Center for ORBX PAKT payware airport If you have that payware package installed then you need to use the zip file that is marked for use with the payware airport. It has NOT been updated in any way so if you already had it installed with your ORBX PAKT payware airport then you do NOTHING!
With the PFJ scenery area and the included PAKT airport then the v2.0 will be the one you download and install. If you had the original Totem Bight you need to delete it first then add the v2.0.
Nothing mysterious here, if you do not have Totem Bight and do not have the ORBX payware PAKT airport download and install the v2.0 scenery. If you do have the original Totem Bight and the PFJ PAKT then delete the old Totem Bight download and install the new v2.0.
That's it K.I.S.S.
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Like Spud said, the one with the red highlight is for PAKT Payware airport. It's an update I did that will change version 1.0, the original one I did for default PFJ, to version 2.0 and will make that fit with the new shorelines of the water that changed with the installation of the payware airport. So if you use the PAKT payware airport for Ketchikan, you need to install only that version.
The top listing that is dated this month is for default PFJ and Doug did that version.
The reference to PAKT with SP1 needs to change to just say "PAKT with Payware Airport" because SP1 is a patch that everybody needs to have installed and doesn't change shorelines around extremely like the payware airport for Ketchikan does.
Sorry for the confusion folks but that's why we have these forums. Thanks for helping us make RTMM less confusing.
Brad
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I went take a ride to Totem Bight Operation Center, with the version of the payware airport Orbx PAKT.
There is a small problem with the ramp and the floor, as noted by GrayRider.
But maybe we're not supposed to go up there ! ;)
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Nadine,
perhaps Brad will confirm that his Totem Bight that is compatable for the ORBX Payware PAKT airport does or does not have a hardened ramp. As I understand it it does not have a hardened ramp. What say you Brad?
Only the new file for plain old PFJ (no addon airport) has been updated with the hardened ramp as far as I know.
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Yes that is a ramp not made for aircraft at this time. I don't use PAKT payware airport so there are no plans to make a change to this version.
Brad
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That answers my question Brad. I made sure I had the version used with FTX's PAKT and was unable to go up the ramp. No big deal really. Have to say though.....the inside of the building with the guy working on the aircraft is a neat bit of kit. :D
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Thank you for the answer, this is the reason that it is noted to take " Bob " to visit the hangar ;)
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Okay, I've added some ramps that should work for Amphibians to my PAKT Payware version of Totem Bight. Rob will be posting some results here shortly I hope.
Brad