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Title: What do you fly in the most?
Post by: Bradallen43 on February 04, 2011, 07:45:15 AM
Folks,

I would like to find out what bush aircraft we all fly around in the most. So would everyone interested in seeing some custom "Misty" repaints, please reply here with what they consider the most used bush aircraft in their library. Only a top five please if you use that many.

Keep in mind that this isn't a guarantee of any specific models being done, it's just to give us an overall idea of what's popular out there right now with you. Aircraft can be default FSX or payware. And any up converted FS9 models too.

Try to be specific too. For example, the Carenado C185 "Skywagon" has several variants that are available in each of the different packages they offer. I only have the "Bush" package but there are four models I can fly with that package, float, amphibian, ski and tundra. The Flight Replica Super Cub has over 20 models.

I'll start things out:

Carenado C185 "Skywagon" Tundra Tires (c185_tundra.mdl)
Flight Replicas Piper "Super Cub" Experimental w/35" wheels (FR_Super_Cub_Ultimate.mdl)
Carenado U206 "Stationair" Amphibian (Cessna206.mdl) (model.Bush) folder
Carenado C185 "Skywagon" Amphibian (c185_anfibio.mdl)
Carenado U206 "Stationair" Cargo Pack (Cessna206.mdl) (model.CC) folder
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: One-Eye on February 04, 2011, 08:02:47 AM
One thought here Brad...

Might be a good idea if you copy/paste the models into your post above so that we have a "single table" in the end...

Just a thought ;).

Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: Avian on February 04, 2011, 08:04:09 AM
Carenado U206 "Stationair" Amphibian
Carenado U206 "Stationair" Cargo Pack
Aerosoft DH6 Twin Otter Floats
Aerosoft DH6 Twin Otter Wheels 300 Modern.

Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: Dieter on February 04, 2011, 08:21:25 AM
A2A Piper Cub
Aerosoft  Beaver
Aerosoft Twin Otter
BushHawk
Carenado  C-185 complete package
Carenado C-182 Q
Flight Replicas Piper "Super Cub package
Lionheart's Kodiak Quest
RealAir Scout
SibWings  BirdDog
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: retep49 on February 04, 2011, 08:22:34 AM
Hallo, most times I fly these aircrafts in Misty Moorings and in ORBX scenery PNW, NRM, PFJ.

Helicopters: Default Bell 206B , EH 101
                    ND BO-105
                    ND MD-902
                    Cerasim Bell 212

Amphibians: Aerosoft BeaverX
                    Aerosoft Bush Hawk XP
                    Realair Scout 2007
                    A2A Piper J-3 Cub
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: corbu1 on February 04, 2011, 08:47:54 AM
I only fly Helicopters!?
If it`s O.K. I want to bring them in,too 8)

Helicopters:
Dodosim FSX 206
Nemeth Designs BO105
Nemeth Designs MD500D

Regards
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: AaronMyers on February 04, 2011, 10:17:49 AM
I'm very partial to the Sibwings Birddog, and the A2A Cub.
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: CAF440 on February 04, 2011, 10:30:21 AM
Twotter, Beaver, Bush-hawk, DC-3, Goose, HU-16 Albatross, Pby, C208,C185,C206, Electra, DHC-7 and 5.
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: evoras on February 04, 2011, 11:31:54 AM
Sorry couldn't keep it to 5....

1. Carenado C185 "Skywagon" all versions
2. FSAddon Super Cub X
3. Lionheart's Quest Kodiak
4. Dodosim 206
5. Capt. Sim C-130
6. Aerosoft DH6 Twin Otter Floats and  Wheels 300 Modern
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: AKCub on February 04, 2011, 01:54:21 PM
          Carenado C185 Tundra/Float
          FR Super Cub Extreme version
          Aerosoft Beaver Tundra/Float
          Aerosoft Twin Otter Wheel/Float
          Real Air Scout Tundra/Float
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: AW032 on February 04, 2011, 02:45:08 PM
RealAir Scout/Amphibian

SibWings  BirdDog/Amphibian
 :)
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: Francois on February 04, 2011, 03:56:28 PM
Anything as long as it doesn't have a nose wheel.......  :P
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: BeaverDriver on February 04, 2011, 06:50:43 PM
Hmmnn,

Carenado 185 floats summer, wheel/skis winter
Aerosoft Beaver - floats summer, wheel/skis winter
Aerosoft Twin Otter 100 - floats and wheels summer, wheels winter
Cera 212 - Skids summer, skids winter ;D
Lastly, if I could find it, whatever airplane had those inflatable dolls (ref another post) - summer, fall, winter, spring, day, night  ;D
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: Grizz on February 04, 2011, 07:27:51 PM
Depends on the mood. Here are the most popular in my Hanger.

Carenado C185F
Carenado Cessna 182Q
A2A PiperJ3
Aerosoft Beaver
DHC2 Beaver
RealAir Scout Amphibian

Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: Dusty_Sourdough on February 04, 2011, 08:25:06 PM
185 - Carenado
Supercub - FR
206 - Carenado
208 - Carenado
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: Bushpounder on February 05, 2011, 12:10:14 AM
HAVE

PC-6 (my own brand)
DHC-2
C-185
DHC-6
D-18
Sherpa
Beech 1900
C-208

WANT

DHC-3 (reg. & turbine)
C-207

BP;)
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: pivo11 on February 05, 2011, 03:14:04 AM

Carenado 185
Aerosoft Beaver
Flight Replicas Super Cub
Lionhart Kodiak
Milton Shupe's Beech 18

Cheers,
Fritz

Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: canuck21a on February 05, 2011, 09:32:47 PM
Let's see. So many to choose from but for bush:
Aerosoft Beaver
Aerosoft Twin Otter
A2A Piper J3
Carenado U206
Carenado 182S (Only on good runways)
GFA Super Cub (FSAddon - one of my favourites)
Grumann Goose
Maule
Quest Kodiak (Lionheart)

Emergency Rapid Response: Alpha MV-22 Osprey  ;)
Extremely Serious Response: Harrier JumpJet   :D
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: kiki on February 06, 2011, 01:01:53 PM
I´m quite inactive these days (job, wife, puppy, gym, house keeping me busy) but for sure will find more time for flight simming in the near future. And then I fly mainly these:

Carenado C185 (all vesrions)
Carenado Cessna 182Q
A2A PiperJ3
DC-3 (MAAM-SIM and the default one)
F1 Pilatus PC-12
Lionheart Quest Kodiak

and for the longer runways:

RealAir Duke

I wish someone would make a good FSX-native DC-3 and Beaver!!!
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: Wildbird on February 06, 2011, 05:03:58 PM
Vertigo is making a DC-3. I'm hoping that will be a good one, the one from Just Flight wasn't all that.. As for the Beaver, I'm starting to think that the default is the best one, but I'd pay 200 bucks for an Accusim Beaver...


My faves:
C185 amphib (Carenado)
Grand Caravan (Carenado)
Beaver (Aerosoft and default)
Bell 206 (Dodosim)
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: One-Eye on February 06, 2011, 05:14:42 PM
I'll do some stats tomorrow... it's looking like there is a fair deal of common ground already.
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: derxtreme on February 07, 2011, 12:28:15 AM
My Favorites
Aerosoft Beaver Tundra/Float
Carenado C185 "Skywagon" Tundra Tires
A2A Piper J3
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: One-Eye on February 07, 2011, 12:41:31 AM
OK, here is a "popularity list so far. If I missed a couple it's because I didn't understand the post, i.e. who makes that particular aircraft. (sorry) The list may also give others ideas...

Sorry about the spacing

Maker (sim)   Manufacturer   A/C Type   qty
A2A   Piper   Cub   9
Aerosoft   Bell   UH-1   1
Aerosoft   Consolidated   PBY   2
Aerosoft   DHC   Beaver   14
Aerosoft   DHC   Twin Otter   10
Aerosoft   Found Air   Bushhawk   4
Alphasim   Aerospatiale   Dauphin   1
CaptainSim   Lockheed   C130   2
Carenado   Cessna   C172   2
Carenado   Cessna   C182   5
Carenado   Cessna   C185   14
Carenado   Cessna   U206    9
Carenado   Cessna   C210   1
Carenado   Cessna   Caravan   1
Cerasim   Bell   212   1
Cerasim   Bell   412   2
Classic British   DHC   Chipmunk   1
Classic British   Taylorcraft   J2   1
Digital Aviation    Dornier   DO 27   1
Digital Aviation    Piper   PA 31   1
Dodosim   Bell   206   3
Flight Replicas   Piper    L4   1
Flight Replicas   Piper    Super Cub   6
Flight0   Britten Norman   Islander   1
Flight1   Pilatus   PC12   1
Flight2   Pilatus   PC6   1
FSAddon   Piper   Super Cub   3
FS Heli   Sud Aviation   Alouette 2   1
FS Heli   Sud Aviation   Lama   1
GMaxSkid   Bell   47 G3   1
Hovercontrol   Bell    412   1
Iris   Diamond   DA40   1
Iris   Diamond   DA42   1
Justflight   Douglas   DC3   1
Justflight   Schweizer   300 Cbi   1
Lionheart   Quest   Kodiak   5
MAAM   Douglas   DC3   1
Marcel du Plessis   Grumman   AgCat   1
Marcel du Plessis   Grumman   Turbo Thrush   1
Microsoft   Bell   206   1
Microsoft   DHC   Beaver   3
Microsoft   Douglas   DC3   3
Microsoft   Grumman   Goose Default   4
Microsoft   Grumman   Goose OzX   1
Microsoft   Maule   M7   2
Microsoft   Piper   Cub   2
Microsoft   Robinson   R22   1
Microsoft   WA   EH101   1
Milton Shupe   Beech   18   1
Nemeth   AS   Samson   1
Nemeth   Bell   UH-1   1
Nemeth   Eurocopter   120   1
Nemeth   Eurocopter   135   1
Nemeth   Eurocopter / AS   Super Puma   1
Nemeth   Bolkow   105   3
Nemeth   MD    500   2
Nemeth   MD    902   2
Nemeth   Sikorsky   C54   1
Nemeth   Sikorsky   CH 53   1
Nemeth   Sikorsky   Skycrane   1
PMDG   Beech   1900   1
Real Air   ACA   Scout pack   5
Real Air   Beech   Duke   1
Sibwings   Cessna   Birddog   4
Sibwings   Saab   Safir   1
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: BernieF on February 07, 2011, 06:51:38 AM
Aerosoft Beaver Amphibian.

Cheers

Bernie
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: GrahamP on February 07, 2011, 01:23:37 PM
A2A Piper Cub
Carenado C172
Carenado C185
Aerosoft DHC Beaver
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: CAF440 on February 09, 2011, 07:54:39 PM
Ok to redefine what I fly is simple.
1  aerosofts beaver, bush hawk, my personal love the twotter or better known to me as the cc-138.
2  caranado 206, 185, 208
3  Loinheart's Kodiak the USA's best Bush Icon and Aircraft
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: FSRobert on February 12, 2011, 01:10:38 PM
Seems anything that says Carenado.

Microsoft   Grumman   Goose

Lionheart   Quest   Kodia

Sibwings   Cessna   Birddog

A2A Piper Cub

Aerosoft   DHC   Beaver

Aerosoft   DHC   Twin Otter

Who knows when another pretty lady will join the hanger.

Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: Doug on February 12, 2011, 01:23:42 PM
Don't forget, we've got a little poll going here:
 http://forum.mistymoorings.com/index.php?topic=154.msg935#msg935
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: Magnum Beaver on February 12, 2011, 03:10:50 PM
Okay, in order of importance:

1. DHC-2T  Turbine Beaver Amphibian - Premier Aircraft Design
2. DHC-3T  Turbine Otter Amphibian - Premier Aircraft Design
3. Quest Kodiak Amphibian - Lionheart
4. Cessna 185 Amphibian - Carenado
5. Cessna 675 Amphibian - Friendly Panels

as with most of you I have a lot more aircraft that I fly pretty regularly, but for Bush pounding, these are the top of my list.. however if we have any enterprising aircraft modelers out there, I could be twisted into spending a LOT of money for a G-21G Super Goose!
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: Leorstef on February 15, 2011, 12:18:09 AM
Mostly silly things who wings spin about in a speedy circular fashion, beating the air into submission...  ;D

Dodo206, ND's Bo105, EC135 and MD500, Peter Salzgeber's  SA315B Lama, and lately Aerosoft's Huey.

On occasion Carenado's wonderful C185F with tundra tires, and Bill Ortis' also wonderful Quest Kodiak, as well as many others here at this forum it seems.
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: One-Eye on February 15, 2011, 02:05:23 AM
Flingwings aren't silly and they don't fly simply because the earth repels them...

Nooo... helicopter pilots are just so good, that when they want to fly, the Earth is in such awe, that she moves herself around for the heliviator.
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: alexf on March 04, 2011, 06:09:43 AM
For me on the Bush flying side of things (in about preference order, more or less as I like them all):

Sibwings BirdDog
A2A Piper Cub
Aerosoft Beaver
Carenado 185F
Carenado 206
Carenado 172N
Dodosim 206

Have been known to come in on a few others on occasion (but not really bush):
Carenado PA28
Goose
Aerosoft PBY
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: One-Eye on March 04, 2011, 08:39:44 AM
It really does look like the Carenado 185 is the most popular. And I don't have it.

Is this model reall worth the effort? Is the paintkit capable of reproducing both sides of everything without mirroring? Do the flaps move in a "Fowler flap" manner?

About the last... Cessna don't call them Fowler flaps, but they do extend backwards as well as down. I had arguments with Carenado about the 172. The flaps on their model merely rotate, but in reality they move back to increase the wing surface area as well by 5 or 6 %. I even sent photos of the flap and track mechanisms from three C172s that we have at the Airbus flying club, but the big C told me to go away. Not rudely, just that they wouldn't be able to correct this error.

I still fly the Carenados in my hangar - although the only "real FSX" one I have is the 172. I did add the free FSX conversions of their FS9 206, 210 and the RG182, but these really aren't as FSX as they could be.

Oh and by the way - I don't know about the 185's flaps (yet)
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: Bradallen43 on March 04, 2011, 12:01:44 PM
Yes, yes and yes, yes, yes!!!!!

It's a great aircraft to fly around the PFJ region. Bushpounders website has some aircraft.cfg tweaks that make the plane very bouncy. But a blast to fly still.
Haven't messed with any painting of it, but there are others out there who have. You can find them pretty easy.

Please....... oh please.....
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: One-Eye on March 04, 2011, 12:18:29 PM
I've just downloaded a repaint for the 185 (any old repaint) and I do recognise that Carenado have, at least made their mapping so that all surfaces are individual. I'll thumbs up on that.

Now... how is that flap action. let me look in airliners net.
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: One-Eye on March 04, 2011, 12:26:28 PM
A quote from "Allaboutaircraft.com"

Quote
Flaps

Large single-slotted Fowler type "Para-Lift" flaps are used on both the Cessna 180 & 185. They increase the size and camber of the wing. Excellent lift is obtained at half-flaps, and at full 40 degrees of flaps a very high sinkrate is possible.

So... someone fire up their 185 and watch the flaps as they extend. The must move rearwards as they extend. If Carenado have fixed that, then I may consider spending money.
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: Wildbird on March 04, 2011, 12:29:45 PM
The paintkit is good, haven't seen any mirroring and it's easy assemble all the main pieces to make a Cera style paintkit. The 185 Bush package is fairly cheap too I believe.

Gimme a few minutes and I'll have a look at the flaps.

Edit: Okay, they don't simply rotate, there is some backwards movement too. If it qualifies as "para-lift" I don't know.
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: One-Eye on March 04, 2011, 12:37:02 PM
I've been looking at the Avsim review. I am disappointed by the VC already - some of the placards are crisp while others are lousy.

Sad.

And looking at the flaps in some of the screenies, I suspect they merely rotate on the single pivot.
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: One-Eye on March 04, 2011, 01:20:54 PM
Thanks for the info Wildbird.

I have always liked the carenado stuff in general terms, although I have always found their mapping and texturing to be "not up to FSX standards" I see from the repaints I have looked at, that the paintkit for the 185 is more in line with a painter's dreams, but as I just mentioned, I am not really moved or excited by the preview screenshots of the interiors etc.

I am probably spoiled by stuff like Nemeth's and Sibwings' interiors, or A2A's performance and even Michael Flahault's (Flight Replicas) models are exquisitely put together. And when you look at freeware stuff like the gliders, microlights and hanggliders put together by Mike Rowberry, then I am afraid Carenado looks really old.

On the other hand, Carenado models are not expensive.

I will give the 185 some serious thought, but I can't promise I will buy here just so that I can paint her once or twice.
Title: Re: Who flies what?
Post by: Wildbird on March 04, 2011, 02:02:06 PM
All I can say is that I very much disagree. :) I only have the 185 and 208, but when it comes to looks and details, they are by far my favourites. You really should give the 185 a try, the only way it looks old is the tear and wear.
Title: Re: What do you like
Post by: One-Eye on March 04, 2011, 02:16:36 PM
You also have to remember I am currently out of work due to health reasons and very likely to be retired early. I have to weigh every penny. I get many models through my beta testing work (and I do mean work) and I managed to get my system up to its current performance before the acident.

I still buy the occasional addon (like the Orbx stuff) and helicopters are always tempting. But I am afraid Carenado's reputation is only as high as it is because of what I would dare call professional praisers. They make good, solid planes - but not in the same appearance quality league as RAS, A2A, Sibwings and co.

I know - it is a very jaded opinion. I had all their FS9 stuff and that was good enough, but they just don't cut the mustard with their FSX performance so far. They still use plain bmp textures instead of dds and they don't even produce simple layered paintkits. Merely textures similar to Microsoft FSX's "white" aircraft textures.

Just take a look at Flight Replicas paintkits...

I'm not saying I won't, I just need more thought.
Title: Re: What do you fly in the most?
Post by: Leorstef on March 04, 2011, 04:23:29 PM
I hear you, Chris.
I'm what we call over here, "Under-employed" after having my full-time job w/ benefits cut with another company.
I have a part-time job that's keeping me afloat.  For now.

I agree with your assessment too of Carenado, and especially the "paint kits".
This one has issues with texture mapping on the rudder of the Tundra and Skis models for sure. 
(Fixable, workable, but a pain nonetheless.)

But I did pick this 185 up, while it was on sale.
If given the same opportunity, I would recommend getting this one.
The 300hp flat Continental with a triple blade prop just makes this plane fun to fly.

I can see now why Mr. Jim Tweto of "Flying Wild Alaska" fame loves to get out from behind the C.O.O. desk any chance he can to fly his 180.
The 180/185 is a delight to operate into and out of tough spots, and has speed to get you where you want to go, and still carry a reasonable amount of passengers and cargo.
Title: Re: What do you fly in the most?
Post by: Tigerclaw on March 04, 2011, 06:11:00 PM
My top 5 for bush flying are mixed, fixed wing, and rotor.

1. Sibwings BirdDog
2. A2A Piper Cub Tundra
3. Dodo Bell 206
4. Cera Bell 412 EP
5. Quest Kodiak by Lionheart Creations ( This is rare though, I prefer slower craft).

Usually in that order of preference. I do fly other planes/Helis, but that's my top five.
Title: Re: What do you fly in the most?
Post by: One-Eye on March 04, 2011, 06:16:55 PM
Yeah, that Bird Dog sure is pretty. A great model, great original textures. The flight dynamics took a lot of work and may still need work. I love it too.
Title: Re: What do you fly in the most?
Post by: Dieter on March 05, 2011, 03:51:07 AM
I agree, the BirdDog is a great bush plane meanwhile (after Alexander Metzger created the new FDE) and she's pretty well flyable (needs some pedal footwork), excellent VC and a variety of textures is offered. Nevertheless there are still some technical errors. But I don't believe they will ever be fixed by SibWings.
(I wrote a posting in their forum "Waiting for maintenance service" which is not answered with any word, not even by customers.  :(   )

Dieter
Title: Re: What do you fly in the most?
Post by: Tigerclaw on March 05, 2011, 09:53:28 AM
Yes Dieter, I noticed that there are a few areas that need a bit of work. Mostly navigation related. And I agree that it looks like they won't be fixed by by Sibwings. It's a shame. He has a great product that could be perfect if he'd only take a little time to get it right.

I personally don't use the BirdDogs' navigation anyway, I use it strictly for VFR and sight seeing. The plus's for me are the fantastic views. Look anywhere and you can see out of a window, just great. The flight dynamics feel good to me, but then I've never flown real world. It's an ideal plane if you want fly hands on. If you want to kick back, set autopilot, and go for lunch, fly a Carenado  ;D Or anything else of that genre.
Title: Re: What do you fly in the most?
Post by: archangel1 on March 07, 2011, 01:38:49 AM
Definitely not a bush plane but it's fun to fly.  Looks great, too.  One of them even made it to Alaska, where it unfortunately crashed in 1944.  May still be in storage in Anchorage, for all I know.  This one's from FS9.  Can't wait to fly it once I get FSX running.

Milton Shupe's gorgeous Spartan 7W Executive.

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5138/5505490524_118a370a6f.jpg)
Title: Re: What do you fly in the most?
Post by: andimull on May 11, 2011, 07:47:27 AM
hi folks,

I'm new here but not new to Misty Moorings. I used to fly here quite a bit during the fs2004 days.
These days I mostly fly in my Dornier Seastar prototype (see my avatar). It's a lovely plane with quite some power and STOL capabilities!

Cheers
Andi
Title: Re: What do you fly in the most?
Post by: Dragnhorn on May 11, 2011, 01:59:11 PM
Welcome Andi!  I also like this aircraft and fly it in FSX.  Not sure if we have the exact same model but it's great for exploring the lakes and bays of Misty.
Title: Re: What do you fly in the most?
Post by: texerrn on November 21, 2011, 01:59:21 PM
All the above but usually the Lionheart Qwest Kodiak. It comes in land and float versions. By far my favorite payware addon. Lee
Title: Re: What do you fly in the most?
Post by: pippin on November 30, 2011, 01:02:43 AM
I fly mostly............

         SIBWINGS     BIRD-DOG (Amphib)
         SIBWINGS     BIRD-DOG (Ski)
         REALAIR        SCOUT      (Amphib)
         REALAIR        SCOUT      (Tundra)

Both these aircraft have their problems. But with a little tweaking here and there and a little help from this community these two are my favorite bush planes.

                                         Ian
Title: Re: What do you fly in the most?
Post by: Dragnhorn on November 30, 2011, 01:09:57 AM
Ian, what tweaks worked for the Bird Dog?   I used the autopilot info already......thanks!
Title: Re: What do you fly in the most?
Post by: pippin on November 30, 2011, 03:06:33 AM
Hi Rob,

   Just the Auto pilot and the HDG direction dial.

                              Ian