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baxterbj

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Rowan Bay Dock on Land
« on: November 20, 2018, 04:11:12 AM »
Rowan Bay dock is surrounded by land.
I have  RTMM, then OZX, Then Black Marble, Then FTX, Then Ultimate Global Mesh, but obviously I have something in the wrong order.
Can anyone advise on the correct order considering Black marble vector and Ultimate Global mesh?

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Re: Rowan Bay Dock on Land
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2018, 05:08:37 AM »
Further to my post above it appears all my RTMM docks are on land.
Misty`s is great as is PANT, and the TESTER is correct.
Im Guessing Ultimate Global terrain, or Black marble Vector.

Anyway, I need help, PLEASE

Brian BJ from OZ

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Re: Rowan Bay Dock on Land
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2018, 07:30:10 AM »
Again I have attempted to solve this problem, I moved Tongass high and lower behind the last Ftx scenery and placed them in order. Still no fix.
All of my RTMM is my first scenery in priority, I’ve done all that is suggested on site, but I still can’t solve the, No water at the RTMM DOCKS.
The only extra scenery that could be the problem is as I say ultimate global terrain, but that too is behind FTX Vector.
I do have BlackMarble Vector that sits quiet high and OZX, but both are placed below RTMM and above FTX.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Brian
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Re: Rowan Bay Dock on Land
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2018, 07:33:35 AM »

The General order of scenery is basically the same: well more or less, no matter what sim well should say this applies to FSX or P3D which are the most common at present. (Can't speak to X-plane or others).


From the top down in your scenery order: should look something like this: (When you add scenery verify the order is correct from the bottom up (and you have to set the FTX Insertion points.)
 
TOP
3rd party addon scenery IE: RTMM addon and below it RTMM libs  (etc)
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FTX
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Tongass Higher
Tongass Lower
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Open LC
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"Named" default scenery bases/entries (Continents/Cities etc)
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Mesh
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FTX Vector Entries (EXX, CVX, APT, FixedAPT, OBJ)
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"Numbered" default scenery bases/entries (0000 Base - 1107 Base)
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FTX Vector Entry (AEC)
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Default Scenery (BASE)
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Default Terrain  (World)
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Bottom
So first check your order and your FTX insertion points and correct if needed and try it again.

If still not a correct display, turn off Black Marble, Turn off mesh.. and try it again to see if the elevations are correct.


Norm


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Re: Rowan Bay Dock on Land
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2018, 08:35:18 AM »
Thanks Norm,

Will try tomorrow, Day, as it’s 2130 here in West Australia.
I’ll try the settings of 5m and 7cm in my P3Dv4 settings as well.
My scenery is very much as you have stated, but I’ll double check, then troubleshoot with black marble and Ultimate Global terrain. Although I’ve got FTX vector I’ve disabled most of it because of Marble Black Vector.
I appreciate your detailed response and will spend some time tomorrow and report back.
My Test scenery on Annette (PANT) is perfect.

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Brian
BJ from OZ..
PS I’d have a go tonight but would probably be divorced in the morning 🤨🤨

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Re: Rowan Bay Dock on Land
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2018, 03:52:13 AM »
Norm,
Have tried every possible choice you have given me.
It still appears where the TF RTMM Docks are, its all land.
I'm at a complete loss.
One of the recommendations on this site is opposite to yours in that they put the Mesh below OBX Vector.
I'm confused?
Thanks for your help.

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Brian (BJ from OZ)

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Re: Rowan Bay Dock on Land
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2018, 06:10:59 AM »
Hi Norm,
Disabled Ultimate Global Mesh and Black Marble, same result land and trees where water should be.
My settings are exactly as you have pointed out, I did  try others but same result.
RTMM, Addon scenery, FTX, Tongass H and then L and so on.
Mesh seems to be my problem whether I have Global on or off.
I've not noticed any other problems around Misty`s, or Oz or Anchorage, Seattle?????

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Brian BJ from OZ

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Re: Rowan Bay Dock on Land
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2018, 06:28:04 AM »
Could you post a screenshot of the area please.  How far reaching is it?  Is it a TFX terrain.cfg issue?  or is it just in one specific location?   ???

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Re: Rowan Bay Dock on Land
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2018, 07:41:19 AM »
Rowan Bay is part of Tongass X installation (TF_FSX_objects_USFS_docks_RowanBay.BGL/TF_FSX_objects_logbooms_RowanBay.BGL/TF_FSX_windsocks_RowanBay.BGL)
Additionally "RTMM Docks" puts some stuff into the scenery. (TF12)

Tongass brings its own mesh. Additional mesh is not necessary and a higher mesh like Ultimate Global Mesh might cause ground texture problems.
BTW, Orbx and RTMM sceneries are still based on the old Pilot's FS Global 2010 FTX DOWNLOAD mesh!

Tongass higher and lower scenery must be placed in priority lower than all Orbx stuff in scenery.cfg.
All RTMM sceneries are in priority higher than all Orbx sceneries.

I don't have Chris Bell's Black Marble software, but this is just night environment enhancement and should not cause your problem.

Important is the correct setting of the insertion points in FTXCentral3.

This is how the scenery looks in my P3Dv4.3:


 
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Re: Rowan Bay Dock on Land
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2018, 07:43:04 AM »
Bingo,
Just fixed it.
YES it was a a corrupt terrain file, this has happened before when I’ve installed other scenery into P3D.
Checked the terrain.cfg, after working all day on correcting scenery priority , and bugga me, the 40 Tongass files have gone.
This may of happened when I installed MarbleBlack.

Thank you
Jeff and thanks Norm


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Re: Rowan Bay Dock on Land
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2018, 07:45:41 AM »
Dieter,

Thank you,
What a great forum, thanks to all.

Kind Regards
Brian
BJ from OZ

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Re: Rowan Bay Dock on Land
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2018, 08:10:29 AM »
 :)

Thanks Dieter.   8)

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Re: Rowan Bay Dock on Land
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2018, 08:51:47 AM »
Someone else just recently had the same issues with a corrupt terain.cfg file. How it happens is anyone's guess; it happened to me once out of the clear blue and I hadn't changed or installed anything for a long time.

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Re: Rowan Bay Dock on Land
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2018, 10:09:32 AM »
Nice job Jeff for eluding to the terrain.cfg and thank-you Dieter for the in depth follow up on the details. You guys are teaching all of us simmers to setup sims better and to troubleshoot better! Not only is scenery order, FTX Insertion points critical to maintain the correct position but if the area or concern is within Tongass also to watch for corruption of the terrain.cfg re: the 40 Terrain entries for Tongass X in P3D.

Nice job all.
Norm
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Re: Rowan Bay Dock on Land
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2018, 07:33:06 PM »
A good reminder to maintain regular backups!
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