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Just DL and installed this amazing project and it looks fantastic. Very nice work guys. I love the snow drifts and the sound of the wind blowing but I cannot see the blowing snow? :'(
I have read over and over again how to install the effects into FSX effect folder and then the SIRP_ez_ library_BGL? Where does it go ?
Who can explain the correct installation procedure for making this work?
Thanks
Mike
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I'm having the same problem - all is installed as per the instructions and I've tried moving priorities in the scenery library. Here's what I have:
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j92/frostlp/sl.jpg)
The wind is blowing (at McLeod) - the windsock is moving. I've it set to 16mph.
Perhaps it's 'cause I don't have the Acc. pack for Flight Sim?
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Just a question. Are your "advanced animations" and "special effects" sliders maxxed out? If your FX files are in the effects folder, and the bgls are activated in the scenery library, they should work. Your library structure looks ok to me. Here's what I've got. The folder name is different, but that doesn't matter. You should have 10 bgl files in the scenery folder.
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Yes, both animations and effects are as suggested and the effects are in the correct place also. Do you have the FS Acceleration Pack? I don't.
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frostlp,
the blowing snow is a bit tricky to install and I'll give you a step by step here and perhaps it will help others when they get to that installation.
Some quick history the effect is from the FS9 SIRP scenery modified to work within FSX.
INSTALLATION PROCESS:
1. Download the blowing_snow_effect.zip and extract it to a temporary folder.
2. It creates a blowing_snow_effects folder containing two additional .zip files, and two informational .jpg files that are not needed.
3. Unzip the cirp_blowing_snow_efx.zip file creating a cirp_blowing_snow_efx folder. It contains another folder named CIRP Blowing Snow EFX with a scenery sub-folder with the .bgl files for each Ice Station. (again the jpg's are for information only)
4. This CIRP Blowing Snow EFX is the folder that is added to your FSX Addon Scenery folder or wherever you place your CIRP files as you have already done.
5. Now unzip the remaining SIRP_EZ_Effects.zip creating a folder named SIRP_EZ_Effects containing two more folders and the SIRP EZ Effects Manual.pdf.
6. All the fx_SIRP files in the Effects folder are placed into the FSX\Effects folder. There is also a texture sub-folder. The files in the texture sub-folder are placed in the FSX\Effects\texture folder.
7. The last folder in the SIRP_EZ_Effects is named EZ Library BGL and has a scenery sub-folder in it.
There are two file in this sub-folder, sirp_ez_effects.bgl and sirp_ez_effects.txt. Just copy those two files into your EZ Scenery Library\scenery sub-folder.
Now cross your ankles, face NSW count to 1000 nod three times and spit downwind. Start FSX and watch the snow blow. As you already know you have to have some wind in the sim or it will not blow. :o
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PS: When the blowing snow was developed for SIRP for FS2004 Acceleration was not even thought of so it is not a requirement for the effect to work in FSX either.
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Hi Spud - thanks for the help.
I've done everything step by step as you said - no luck.
Other than wind, and using the winter season, how should the weather be set?
Before I read your post, I had ordered Acc Pack for FSX from Amazon anyway. I remember missing smoke from the cabin at Misty's, because of that. I have SP1 and SP2 for FSX - can I just install this acc pack? I thought that SP2 was a sub for the acc pack.
Lou
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Didn't the manual say something about setting the year to 2100?
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Hey frostlp. I had some trouble viewing some 3rd party files and some old FS2004 files before getting Acceleration installed. If CIRP is installed correctly, I'd give it a try. To answer your question, SP2 is not a sub for Acceleration. Acceleration has everything that SP2 does but SP2 does not contain everything that Acceleration has...if that makes sense.
"•If install SP2 and later purchase Flight Simulator X: Acceleration, you must uninstall SP2 before installing Acceleration"
http://www.microsoft.com/Products/Games/FSInsider/downloads/Pages/SP2-EN-ReadMe.aspx (http://www.microsoft.com/Products/Games/FSInsider/downloads/Pages/SP2-EN-ReadMe.aspx)
Hope that helps.
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Thanks for the input. Has it installed correct though but must be missing something.
What format does the effect texture BMP's have ? Can that be edited to work better in FSX?
Rgds
Mike
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Didn't the manual say something about setting the year to 2100?
Setting the year to 2100 is only necessary when and if you are placing the 'orbs' to create another 'blowing snow' area in your sim. You do not have to change the year with normal usage.
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Hi Spud - thanks for the help.
I've done everything step by step as you said - no luck.
Other than wind, and using the winter season, how should the weather be set?
Before I read your post, I had ordered Acc Pack for FSX from Amazon anyway. I remember missing smoke from the cabin at Misty's, because of that. I have SP1 and SP2 for FSX - can I just install this acc pack? I thought that SP2 was a sub for the acc pack.
Lou
From your screen shot of your FSX Scenery Library you should move the CIRP Blowing Snow EFX belowall the object libraries. Libraries should always be on the top. I noticed that you have the EZ Library BGL added as a separate library which should work fine but move the CIRP Blowing Snow EFX below all your library entries.
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I have read over and over again how to install the effects into FSX effect folder and then the SIRP_ez_ library_BGL? Where does it go ?
@ Mike. The SIRP_ez_library.bgl you mentioned goes into a scenery folder in the Addon Scenery folder.
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Hi guys - thanks for the replies.
Setting the year to 2100 didn't do it.
arodsat - thanks for the info regarding installing the pack (uninstalling SP2).
I'm looking forward to seeing what I've been missing.
spud - I moved the .bgls from CIRP Blowing Snow EFX (then deleted this folder) to C.I.R.P. Scenery
I have all of the C.I.R.P. .bgl files in the same scenery folder (C.I.R.P. Scenery) - is this OK?
Thanks,
Lou
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Hi guys - thanks for the replies.
Setting the year to 2100 didn't do it.
arodsat - thanks for the info regarding installing the pack (uninstalling SP2).
I'm looking forward to seeing what I've been missing.
spud - I moved the .bgls from CIRP Blowing Snow EFX (then deleted this folder) to C.I.R.P. Scenery
I have all of the C.I.R.P. .bgl files in the same scenery folder (C.I.R.P. Scenery) - is this OK?
Thanks,
Lou
Yes it will work but to be absolutely honest the blowing snow effect seems to be an FPS hog somewhat and if you do not keep the .bgl's in their own folder you can not turn them off unless you go into the CIRP folder you put everything into and disable those bgl's. This is the reason we recommend installing the scenery the way we do. It can be turned off one base or effect at a time if you so desire. Having it all together is more efficient of course just not as flexible.
The problem seems be that the original zip file has two more zip files inside of it. These two embedded zip file are what is used to install the blowing snow. Unzip the cirp_blowing_snow_efx.zip.
it has an cirp_blowing_snow_efx folder, inside of this folder is the CIRP Blowing Snow EFX folder with its scenery sub-folder that you place in the FSX\Addon Scenery folder and then add it to the FSX Scenery Library.
The second embedded zip file, SIRP_EZ_Effects.zip will unzip to a folder named SIRP_EZ_Effects which contains two other folders, 1) Effects and 2) EZ Library BGL plus the Blowing Snow Manual. The 13 .fx files in the Effects folder are placed inside the FSX\Effects folder and the four .bmp files in the texture sub-folder in the Effects folder are placed into the FSX\Effects\texture folder. The EZ Library BGL and its scenery sub-folder is placed in the FSX\Addon Scenery and then added to the FSX Scenery Library.
There is no date changing required BUT you do have to have some wind blowing in the weather or the snow will not blow. No wind, no blowing (duh!)
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It is still a no go for the blowing snow. I think I have tried all possible combinations. I have FSX SP2 and Orbx PFJ with the update but I do not have Tongass Fjords. Also I don't have any smoke or fire on any of the 10 Icefields. Any suggestions ?
NB: It is still a great scenery addon that I enjoy very much. The Stewart area with the glaciers and CIRP is probably the most beautiful area in FSX.
Cheers
Mike
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Mike - Do you have the Acc pack installed?
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Mike - Do you have the Acc pack installed?
No. I don't have Acc pack installed but I do have it on a disk and consider installing it on top of my FSX after uninstalling SP2.
I read in another thread that the blowing snow does not require Acc pack since it was made for fs2004.
Cheers
Mike
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from my personal experience, adding Acceleration helped me with some addons. I can't remember for sure if they were made for FS2004 or not. But seeing that you've tried everything else, it wouldn't hurt to try it if you have access to a copy.
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If you do not have smoke or fire anywhere that indicates it probably is a missing scenery object library and/or effects files not in the FSX\Effects folder.
I can not recall which download has the files required. Brad, perhaps you can recall what is needed and jump in here.
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The smoke is from an FSX cabin that everyone should have.
Check the Object library tool we have to find what's missing.
Brad
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Thanks Brad -
I've checked - I've all the libraries.
In the EZ-1 library are some flags I made for FS9 - they don't show at Stewart for me as they did in one of the C.I.R.P. videos I saw. Could be a texture thing. I do have smoke however.
If I uninstall SP2 and install the Acc pack - that's the same as a full rebuild of FSX? Right?
Or will the program just return FSX to the SP1 stage?
I've uninstalled and rebuilt before. It's always rewarding to rebuild, but.......................
I'm running Windows7 64-bit system - multi-core. Could this be any conflict?
I know that FSX leaves anything that isn't default after the uninstall in it's proper folder in the root FSX folder. But I've always either renamed or deleted this root folder before re-installing. Then I would just add my add-on scenery/aircraft. Is there an easier way?
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Hi,
Let's test something :
First TIP.
I don't remember if FSX object libraries need a texture sub-folder, even it is empty.
Please, check the EZ Library BGL content. So, add a texture sub-folder into your EZ Library BGL folder, if none.
And test. If not any solution
Second TIP
1 - Start FSX
2 - In FSX scenery settings, uncheck EZ Library BGL scenery.
3 - Close FSX
4 - Remove EZ Library BGL folder from you addon scenery folder, and paste this folder in a safe place.
5 - copy / paste the sirp_ez_effects.bgl from your removed EZ Library BGL folder, into the addon scenery / RTMM Objet library / scenery folder.
6 - Start FSX, sceneries are re-compiled.
7 - Test
Hope this will help you.
Sorry for my english language !
Xavier
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Thanks for all your help guys but no joy. I will make a backup of my FSX and then uninstall SP2 and install Acceleration Pack for FSX. Hope the upgrade will bring the missing files to my FSX and make the Icefields come alive.
I will report back with the results.
Cheers
Mike
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Frostlp,
The flags were removed with the latest edition of the CIRP base at CZST. (Along with some people in the bushes). So that's not an issue because it confirms you have the latest files for that scenery. That's good.
Brad
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Ah, thanks, Brad for the info.
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OK - I uninstalled SP2 - installed the Acc pack - went to PF40 - now I have blowing snow. :)
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I'd hate to say I told you so...so I'll stop myself here before I say it. ;D Glad you finally installed it and got it working.
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OK - I uninstalled SP2 - installed the Acc pack - went to PF40 - now I have blowing snow. :)
After a lot of backing up( FSX- cfg-XML) I went ahead and installed Acc Pack after I had uninstalled SP2.
It works.........hurrah..Also the missing smoke is there, and it looks fantastic guys.
Conclusion: Acc Pack is needed to have blowing snow and smoke with CIRP. And it is quite safe to install Acc Pack even if you have loads of addons . ( I have 250 lines of addons in my scenery library ! )
Thank you
Mike
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;D Fantastic. Great resolution to this challenge. We've always maintained an installation of FSX with Acceleration is required. It's on our front page, however, this challenge could have been caused by a lot of missing things. So this is great to know.
The original effects were created for FS2004, etc. so I know that all of us here thank each of you for helping nail down the solution.
Brad