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Title: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: Doug on July 20, 2018, 11:00:58 AM
2 evenings ago, I added Terra Flora ... the result was amazing, moving trees! And I think better tree "objects" than in the default. But yesterday I turned on my sim (P3D V4.3) and Terra Flora was not "there." The default objects were showing. 

I know that the 3D animation has to be turned off.
In Scenery/Global/Scenery the vegitation.off and vegitation_TF.bgl are showing as they should.

Wonder if anybody else has had a problem. It has to be a setting "here" because I did see it work once.
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: Doug on July 21, 2018, 02:36:32 PM
Replying to myself. I've uninstalled the product and all of the folders. I then re-installed everything and let the program pick the folder where things go, so it is set up exactly as TF should be. My mesh is at 5, Animated 3D is "off" and the two vegetation files in scenery/global/scenery are what they should be. (vegetation.bgl.off and vegetation_TF.bgl). Still, I am only getting the default trees. Not sure what else to try. Ideas?

Doug
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: Bradallen43 on July 21, 2018, 03:19:37 PM
Sorry I don't have much input on this however I do also have the Terra Flora trees but I'm still using P3D v2.5. I've purchased v4.3 though but haven't had much time to install and configure all the addons I have due to my crazy work schedule right now. I love the way the trees look now though but haven't seen moving trees yet.

Might want to check with Turbulent or ORBX for some answers

Brad
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: Doug on July 21, 2018, 03:21:26 PM
Thanks Brad, I've had a request for help over there for 3 days ... nothing coming back. I'm pretty sure it is ok in 4.3 (Norm uses it). What was strange was I saw it working one time, then it quit. Can't get it back no matter what I do. :-)
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: jeff3163 on July 21, 2018, 03:28:01 PM
I think I have just reinstalled my Terra Flora trees.  :P   I ran the installer, anyway.  I am going out to take a look now.   ???   No configuration options that I can see.  ???  I'll report back if I've got TF trees showing.  ;)
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: Doug on July 21, 2018, 03:35:16 PM
Great Jeff. I'm wondering should TF show up under "Add-ons" on the V4 top menu?  I see it in the Scenery library, at the top and grayed out, but checked active. The only out of ordinary thing I see is this during the install:
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: Bradallen43 on July 21, 2018, 03:36:02 PM
When I was in Vegas in June, met with John Venema, Holger, Bill Womack and the ORBX team at the Flightsim Expo. It was great and again, they all had nothing but high praise for RTMM. John said that Turbulent would be a part of ORBX soon and I was curious if that's happened or not. I think it has but wasn't sure.

I love those trees though.

Brad
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: Doug on July 21, 2018, 03:37:23 PM
I lovED them ... :-)  They were there. I took an MP4 of them to send to Dan. Then the next morning they were gone and haven't been seen since.
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: jeff3163 on July 21, 2018, 04:58:15 PM
Great Jeff. I'm wondering should TF show up under "Add-ons" on the V4 top menu?  I see it in the Scenery library, at the top and grayed out, but checked active. The only out of ordinary thing I see is this during the install:

Hi Doug,
     I didn't have any errors.  I do have an option for the Terra Flora trees in the "Add-ons" menu.  Orbx Objectflow v2 and AI lights reborn (I think it's called.  :P ) are there also.  I DON'T have any entries in my scenery library for TF.  There should not be any.  There is a Terra Flora Library that is activated in the core scenery system, but not in the scenery library.  ;)

     I couldn't find these files on my system.  "(vegetation.bgl.off and vegetation_TF.bgl)."   :-\

edit:  I found them.   :P
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: Doug on July 21, 2018, 05:06:10 PM
OK, it NOT showing up in the menu tells me it just isn't getting installed, so something is going wrong in that process (perhaps the error that I earlier in the thread). Attached here is what I'm seeing in my Scenery Library ... does yours show this?

Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: jeff3163 on July 21, 2018, 05:20:06 PM
OK, it NOT showing up in the menu tells me it just isn't getting installed, so something is going wrong in that process (perhaps the error that I earlier in the thread). Attached here is what I'm seeing in my Scenery Library ... does yours show this?

Yes, I now have an entry like that for the Turbulent Libraries at the top of my scenery library also.
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: corbu1 on July 21, 2018, 05:22:58 PM
Hello Doug,
I have the TF trees installed in P3dv4.3, too. And I do not have any issues.
First, I had the ORBX HD trees installed. I deinstalled them in ORBX Central and installed the TF trees.
In P3dv4.3, I have the Dynamic 3D autogen trees unticked.

I have an entry in P3D addons menu and the same entry like you in the scenery library.
In the sim the TF trees are shown fine for me.
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: Doug on July 21, 2018, 05:23:25 PM
Thanks a bunch Jeff. That should be enough clues for them to figure it out.  I've git it all posted on their P3D V4 forum ...now if  I could just  hear from them.

Corbu1...
OK...thank you. That pretty much confirms everything. Appreciated.
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: Doug on July 22, 2018, 01:19:24 PM
Has anybody got this working in P3D V4.3?   If you do, in the drop down table under your sim's "Add-ons" ... does it show there?  If anyone can get a pic of that it would be appreciated.

At the bottom of the Scenery page, I put a little table labeled Terra Flora Trees, I'm putting my documentation for this problem there. There is an MP4 of what it looked like when it was working under 4.2. Now in 4.3, not only will it not install, there are no trees moving anywhere. (I test this by being a little way AWAY from an RTMM scenery (since those are static trees), and setting the weather on "Severe Thunderstorm" ... that gives an 18 knot wind to blow the trees around.

Doug
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: jeff3163 on July 22, 2018, 01:44:57 PM
I also turned my weather up to blow the trees.  No luck so far. Trees are static.  broken animation? ???

My TD Libraries entry is in the Options/Add-ons menu, not the main Add-ons menu.  I have no idea why there are two add-ons menus in different places.  Slightly confusing.   :o :P :-\
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: Doug on July 22, 2018, 02:58:55 PM
Did you see that "DOS Box" error that I had posted when you installed. I'm wondering if this thing doesn't work in 4.3.
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: jeff3163 on July 22, 2018, 03:04:50 PM
Did you see that "DOS Box" error that I had posted when you installed. I'm wondering if this thing doesn't work in 4.3.

No, I didn't get any errors.  Still, no movement from the trees.  ???
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: Doug on July 22, 2018, 03:06:19 PM
Well, I've posted over at the TD forum,we'll see what Rus says. (His last name and another guy that works there is "Linn" ... distant relative? :-)
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: nbrich1 on July 22, 2018, 03:19:49 PM
Hmmm... looked at my stuff on the home desktop..

The dynamic 3d veg is supposed to be off in p3dv4.3 and the p3d default vegetation.bgl file has to be vegetation.bgl.OFF (scenery/global/scenery turned off.)

The active Terra Flora scenery file is vegetation_TF.BGL (also in scenery/global/scenery...)
Not sure on the workings but will refer to TF manual.

It does say on the TF product description that TF is compatible with other 3rd party stuff. Will do some reading on it.


Norm

Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: Doug on July 22, 2018, 03:22:50 PM
Norm, before you install, you will have "vegetation.bgl" in the Scenery/Global/Scenery. Once you install TF, that changes to "vegetation.bgl.off" and a new one appears "vegetation_TF.bgl".  That is happening for me just fine.  Also the Scenery Library is activated. Somehow, though, it is not affecting the trees. For me, I don't think it is installing.

One major reason I have for really trying to get this to work is TWC II (coming soon). I've got the basics for a "float trip" down the river with 9 places to visit and pull out. Can you imagine a float trip on that beautiful river, with all that Rod has done, and have the water moving and the trees on the bank moving?  That will be something. 

Off subject: If anybody sees a boat that has a 5 hp motor or no motor but moves, I'm interested.  We need something to "float" in.
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: jeff3163 on July 22, 2018, 11:12:57 PM
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/jeff3163/MOON/Flight%20Simulator%20X%20Files/2018/TD%20Libraries%20add-on%20entry.png~original)
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: Handie on July 23, 2018, 05:00:58 AM
Hi,

Terra Flora trees are not mobile at all, they are static.
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: Handie on July 23, 2018, 06:06:45 AM
Only trees obtained with the box "Dynamic 3D Autogen Vegetation" checked are animated.
But these trees are really very ugly and incompatible with Terra Flora trees.
On your screens posted on the Turbulent Designs forum, your trees are Terra Flora trees.
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: Doug on July 23, 2018, 08:43:56 AM
OK ... I had it all wrong. Those are speed trees with 3D animated "on" that I'm seeing in the MP4 I made (link at the bottom of the scenery page). The others are the Terra Flora.  So there is no mystery. Too bad the Terra Flora trees don't move.  Well, I like the Speed Trees. The movement is great down on the water (float trips, etc).

Doug
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: Handie on July 23, 2018, 09:03:42 AM
Yes, I think these are the trees you get when you check "Dynamic 3D Autogen Vegetation", the speed trees.
Only those are animated, except some trees on certain Orbx airfields like Fall City if the option is enabled in the scenery panel.
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: Handie on July 23, 2018, 09:10:38 AM
I find that Speed trees are really "ugly" when seen in flight.
They also require more resources from the PC.
They take over all the other trees, whether Turbulent or Orbx.
But each his own preferences ;)
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: Doug on July 23, 2018, 09:21:44 AM
Agree with you. I'm looking at them from the water level working on a "float boat" trip for TWC II. And when you are down among them, the speed trees are better. So you are correct, it is all "options" :-)

Thanks again, you got me pointed in the direction of sanity. (but only the direction, I've not completed the journey).
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: ualani on July 23, 2018, 12:48:51 PM
Well Doug, you've put me on the insanity journey lately regarding a certain signage request, so we can walk together!  :)

(Not really.)

Steve
Title: Re: Terra Flora Trees
Post by: jeff3163 on July 23, 2018, 09:22:07 PM
 :o :P  I was getting a little crazy looking for moving trees ... for hours.  I couldn't find any that looked like the ones in Doug's video.  It's good to know they don't move.  :P  My trees are just fine, although stoic and rigid.  Flying in 36 knot winds was fun.  ;D  8)  Hard to keep the beaver on terra firma, but hovering is a breeze.   ;D