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Return to Misty Moorings (FSX/P3D/MSFS2020) => Misty Flying Club and Multi Player => Topic started by: Doug on February 22, 2018, 12:51:26 PM
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This thread is for discussing the new Misty Flying Club (VA). It will be launched soon, but you can discuss its usage here. Henry Kirk and Norm Richards are the key players that are bringing this to you. Hat tip to both for a great job. We'll let you know when it is ready. But you can view the project at http://return.mistymoorings.com/mfc/ (http://return.mistymoorings.com/mfc/)
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This is a Great idea, been waiting for something like this for a long time.
Thanks Guys
ken
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I too think this is a great idea and hope to join, but I would like to ask one question. Why FSCloud was chosen vice JoinFS? I have been using JoinFS since it came out and followed it"s development. I must say I have not used Cloud in a long time and have not followed it, so educate me.
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I have tried many Steve, and come always back to Cloud..smooth, easy to use, and you can "turn off" all the stuff you personally don't need. Cloud and the freeware Skype work fine for me. Teecee.
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To chip in with the MP discussion, I tried using GameSpy before with FSX boxed then FSInn/FScopilot, DAFSIM, FSCloud, FSHost, FSD and lately settled with JoinFS since it's very simple and also currently adopted by popular, very active flightsim communities like Digital Theme Park, Elite Premair Virtual, MSFlights and Eastern Hops that also fly GA aircraft and helos.
JoinFS is the newer cross-platform MP software that's peer-to-peer based and not dependent on a central server and it supports P3D, X-Plane, FSX boxed and FSX-Steam. It is very easy to install, use and update though manually, for now. It is also very lightweight with practically no effect on FPS and in active development and is updated regularly. Why not give it a try and compare? Then chose the better one or adopt both.. ;D :D ;)
Here's the JoinFS official site link for those interested: http://pmem.uk/joinfs/
For voice comms with text chats, both Teamspeak and/or Discord are popular choices of these communities..
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I too think this is a great idea and hope to join, but I would like to ask one question. Why FSCloud was chosen vice JoinFS? I have been using JoinFS since it came out and followed it"s development. I must say I have not used Cloud in a long time and have not followed it, so educate me.
Both work ok Steve, FSCloud has a tad more offerings and it easier for setup - no server to find or select.. just start up and go and a world wide map. JoinFS also works and actually might be a bit lighter in resources.. Both work well. Nothing saying we can't try Join FS but we would need to find a server for it and all would have to setup the server link or bookmark.
So thinking at this point we are flexible but I do prefer the FScloud interface and easier usability for pilots.(just my opinion) and experience using both.
Norm
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Norm, anyone can setup a server with JoinFS. I have one running all the time. That is the great part, if one guy is down, someone else can run it. I'll go with either one, just think Join is the better of the two because it has less delay, better overall performance, supports formation flying and great support. Perhaps we can try them both before a decision is made.
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Count me in!
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That works too Steve.. You have your own JOIN FS Server?. Nice..
Now the only thing is FSCloud doesn't need one.. well it only huge one resides on the FSCloud network.. and runs 24/7.. and we don't even have to do a thing other than login(once) then never again and are always connected up. I think only one in the last two years has there even been once when the FSCloud server was down for a couple of hours for maintenance. But hey don't get me wrong I do like Join FS. What is your server on Join FS? (Or if you want to shhh it.. just email me) Now if we Fscloud and also use joinFS we have lots of room lol and backups using alternate clients so all could hook up via either or join FS. Now, please correct me if I'm wrong but FSCloud has it own network world map with all pilots plugged into visible on the world map.. whereas joinfs doesn't have it own map but if plan G or alternate will display pilots on that map...
Honestly we need more monitors!! lol. to display all of this stuff.. lol
Norm
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just think Join is the better of the two because it has less delay, better overall performance, supports formation flying and great support.
Results from practising "FSCloud" and "JoinFS" in our virtual flying club in many multiplayer sessions I expressly confirm the above quote. Additionally you see everything on the aircraft: rotating/standing propeller, external lights on/off, open/close canopy, opening/closing doors a.s.o.
You should try this software.
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I haven't done any multiflying since TeamSpeak n' FS Host were all the rage. Now I'll just guessing here, but FSCloud n' FSJoin don't work together, Right?? So we need to decide which way to go, I'll throw my bean in with the guys who put in the work setting this up, since they put in all the effort, Just my OP for what it's worth
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I agree with av8erjm's sentiments. We need to just leave the guys alone who're working on this project behind the scenes and let them set up the system as they see fit. I know that they've done their homework, have tons of experience in this type of endeavor, and that they're building it from the ground up to be user friendly for the RTMM community. I also know how much time they've put into this project already.The rest of us will cheerfully go with the flow with whatever they decide if we want to participate. We need to thank these guys from the bottom of our hearts for their efforts. Each system has it's pluses and minuses and we all have to accept whatever decisions the team makes. No use complaining about "why didn't you do this or use that" before we've even seen product is even out there.
Steve
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So are you saying we can't have good social discourse on the subject. While I agree the guys are doing a great job of setting this up, I see no reason why there should be no good objective recommendations from the peanut gallery.
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Absolutely nothing wrong with social discourse on the subject as long as it doesn't digress to "why didn't you use this or that," when those decisions have already long been made, that's all.
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I consider myself as a regular multi player flyer (at least 3 sessions a week, at various flight sim clubs in various countries). i have been flying on Vatsim, Ivao, private servers of clubs, FS Cloud, etc. What I see, is that more and more people turn to JoinFS.
The huge advantage is that there is NO server anymore. It works with the peer to peer system. Someone starts a session and gives his coded IP address to another player and off you go. Afterwards anyone can connect to anyone's address in the session, it works. If anyone drops out, it's all the others who keep the session running. Really brilliant. And the quality is the best you can get. You can fly next to a guy who is 100 ft away from you and you can see smoothly all the details of the plane. No hick ups as in other programs.
Also no hassling around anymore with other peoples aircraft models (IVAO's MTL is at nearly 8000 A/C by now). JoinFS only reproduces planes you have in your own stable. And if you don't have the model your friend is flying, you can simply replace it with an aircraft you do have on yr sim.
In todays online flying, JoinFS simply is a no brainer. Don't set up anything else anymore.
For speech, we mostly use Teamspeak3, but Mumble is also a good solution. No experience with Discord, but it looks mighty complicated.
Think twice Norm and Henri. You know me for years now...
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So much for discussion. Can't wait to hear the "How do I do this? How do I do that? It's too complicted."
We'll see.
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I would prefer JoinFS myself, also. ;) It is a great system for hooking the sims together. 8)
(my 2 cents). :P
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IMHO Discord is too complicated! There I done said it! ::)
8)
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ALL simu connexion in one application http://ffs2play.fr/
That we use every days ;)
Patrick
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Honestly guys.. fscloud and joinFS do the exactly same thing - they hook up the sims in the same environment. And they can even be used simultaneously.
If guys would prefer to use JoinFS we can do that we can that too but I do know that many prefer to use FSCloud but honestly it makes no difference to me at all.
So easy.. we can use both.. FSCloud is easy. and JoinFS*
Just have to have JoinFS Users* create a bookmark to use for a common connection for others.
IE: Bookmark name - DigitalThemePark
Address - aviator.digitalthemepark.com
Then for a formal group flight event we just clearly identify which connection client to use.
For other that might just want to fly together as some do, they can just choose their agreeable client of choice to connect so they can fly together.
We are trying to make this as simple as possible for everyone of varied experience levels: from novice to experienced*.
Norm
(Saying that, Vpilot/Vatsim is also a connecting client but many do not fly on the vatsim network).
Discord is the best or TS3 and Skype and is a forum and comms and is also a posting haven for NOTAM, downloads, photos, videos etc . Have setup many sections of text voice channels for various uses: As per atached pic of the the MFC server on Discord server.. (These are just the headings.. they expand to multile channels .. The MFC Discord server link - https://discord.gg/SEe7F3f. Try it ..
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What is this?? Noel and Henry give their time willingly and get this "he says she says" they made their decision, if you don't like it, don't join.
I have flown with Noel and spent time chatting with him..Great Guy, and very committed to simming so how about joining with me and simply saying "Great job, Thanks guys"? Teecee.
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I think we all did that TC.
I was suggesting that we try each one and see what works best for the majority. I loaded up FSCloud ready for an IP address or whatever necessary. Flown on it before, switched to JoinFS and never looked back, just sayin let's try them, but from the looks of things, those who might take part prefer JoinFS.
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Who's Noel? ???
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Hello all,
Right now we are at the very beginning and steve makes a good point by trying them all....or at least trying one. In this case the Cloud is up first. If we have no issues and no unhappiness , that might be the one.....if not, then we sure can move on.
i have never flown with a group, it just didn't fit the simulation I was interested in. Now at the flying club, things are different. Flying clubs all over have fly ins for almost anything. I envision an organized "fly in" on a regular basis, but as activity not the prime focus.
Rest assured that nothing is set in stone and member feedback is most important.
Enjoy your next flight
Henry
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I guess no testing or anything is being done at the moment? I was on Discord and fscloud looking to test with someone.
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I am currently testing FSCloud on my system. Turns out I had it installed four years ago. ::) Got it updated and firing up my sim now. I am sitting at Loring. I am RTMM_Jeff. ;) Discord not on yet, I shall fire that up now.
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What happened to all the voice sections in Discord? Went there yesterday and they were all gone. Also tried to fly on the server for given in post with no luck attaching.
Jeff enjoyed flying with you yesterday.
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That was a rather interesting flight session, from my perspective. I had issues with Discord, push-to-talk would not work if not focused on the Discord page. So talking while flying was impossible. We switched to BBQSteve's teamspeak channel for comms. The Discord page will be ready eventually, but is not yet. This is all new and more patience is required. (and learnin') :P
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Any time Jeff, come on up. Anyone else PM me for info. We can use these resources until Prime Time Misty.
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Just did a slight rearrangement of channels: by subject or topic. (It always did have working voice and still does but now the sections and channels are just sorted a bit better. Each subject or topic section can be either minimized or maximized. And most of the headings have both text and voice.
See pics:
I had seemly conversations in Discord.like for a few hours yesterday, I had not difficulty nor did a gent who I helped get hooked up in Discord, who is 80 and resides in Nova Scotia, and with another gent around the same age from New Brunswick. Doug and I and Rod have had no problems at all with Discord - and it is crystal clear.
The only reason to use Discord is because it is the best of both worlds.. and drag and drop, ability to post links, photos, downloads, etc and so much more.. the best items of skype + TS3 and more all combined in one environment. And again easy to use after a very short learning curve.
Norm
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PS1: For those who might need additional help in finding either text/posting channels or voice channels, will put (Text+Voice), or (Text/Postings), or (Voice Only) on the subject headings.
PS2:
Number sign # in the front of the channel indicates that it is a text/chat or posting channel.
The other channels with the small speaker icon are Voice channels.
IE:
Lobby_Notam (Text+Voice)
Misty Hubs (Text/Postings)
Downloads (Text/Postings)
Flight Comms (Voice Only)
Photos & Video (Text/Postings)
Sim Setup (Text/Postings)
Help & Support (Text+Voice)
Hope this helps all go right to the subject or type of channels they might be looking for.
Norm
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I like the conversation that's going on. Keep the opinion and experiences coming. Sounds like JoinFS may be an easier, less complicated platform? I don't know since I've never done multiplayer flying except way back in Vatsim days using tubeliners, so I can't share any experience at all.
But I'm curious.
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Well.. we just did an adlib group flight.. Discord, & FSCloud.. BBQSteve was in the air flying (in a foreign land on FSCloud), Stutzer,(a friend and fellow flying pilot), who was just setting up to go for a flight, I popped on and shortly thereafter Penzoil3 came on and needed a link to the MFC discord server.. done.. and she linked in like a pro and had no issues at all, and 4 of us flew much of this trip together. (There was going to be two others but they had to go). (Steve finished his flight (over there>>) but then when done came over << here >> to fly with us (but he was on comms with us all the time).
Before we started flying, I threw a few legs (FP) of the BWEP together and we flew from PAVD westward via the north bank of the Harbor over to 7KA then returned to PAVD via the south shore to see the goods in the Valdez Harbor from the towers to the refineries and the ships etc. then we kept going NE, Steve joined in after he finished his own flight and we traveled up to Z93 (Copper Center NR2) following "The Pipes" and we explored the scenics.
No issues at all and a very fun trip even as we introduced ourselves and got to know each other in voice comms in this group flight environment. Looking forward to continued flights with any and all pilots who want to try this.
There is a few posted pics of today informal group event into Discord (Drag n Drop) on the MFC server - under Photos/Video >> Group Flights section.. a couple taken by Penzoil3 and a few of mine. T'was a very fun trip and an enjoyable time with fellow RTMM pilots.
Here is a few pics of the event.
Norm
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More pics.. 8)
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Well I must say it was great meeting in voice all of y'all (right Yankee Sue?). After my flight in Africa it was a nice break to be back in Alaska. Although my scenery was not the same as apparently the rest of you. I had hills on either side of the runway and really no area to pull off. Sorry I had to leave abruptly, but my girlfriend was waiting (a black lab that visits me everyday around 4 PM for her treats and water.)
Looking forward to next time!
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Got some questions, like I've posted earlier, my online flying was years ago with TeamSpeak and FSHost and with Host to see each other in their respective aircraft you had to have the plane and that particular paint job, does this still hold true with either FSCloud or JoinFS, and I'm understanding Discord is like TeamSpeak only better??? Just trying to get this old dog up to some new tricks, Tried Vatsim, but things just went sideways, found it easier to fly IFR in the real world than with them
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It still holds true with both.
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Thanks Steve
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In JoinFS you set up aircraft substitutions for models that can't be found. Substitute single props with Cessna 172, twin engine planes with King Air, etc. ;) So you don't need to have the same planes or paints that the others do. You'll just see your version of their type of plane. :o Did I say that right? If you have the same plane, you'll see the correct one. Otherwise a substitute will be used. :)
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Found a TeamSpeak 3 channel entitled "RTMM Voice Comm Server" (with TS3 address: rtmm.typefrag.com). Was this officially created by RTMM and still being used?
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Trex3D I found this also when I opened my TeamSpeak, which I haven't used since I don't know when, don't know when I set it up, but it's there and I was going to bring it up, but didn't want to upset the apple cart. Still haven't had time to set up three programs for Multi other than downloading them
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:) ... :D ... ;D ... :o
::) :-[ :P Me too! (have RTMM Voice Comm Server on my TS3)
I have this as a bookmark in my TS3, but don't remember setting it up. We have comms!! 8)
Dan set it up? ??? I don't remember. My brain is mushy these days. :-[ :-[
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The RTMM Teamspeak 3 wants a password ? We've been using Discord BTW...
Sue
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When will Misty Flying Club (VA) open?
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Well the VA System that we have tried is not coping with RTMM airports well.. the airport DB keeps crashing.. si a set back.. but are working on a different VA environment.. I have 43 here to there FP routes as well as 4 tours built but the airport db base was not great for adding additional airports. THE Acars for recording also left something to be desired and the way the system handled, or didn't handle 3-digit ICAO.. so this won't work for MFC. Trying another VA system now and hopefully we'll get there. (Will further advise as we work on it).
Norm
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I guess adding a leading "0", like PF3 to PF03 wouldn't work?
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Yup or even a space after the 3-digit icao allows the acars to start but va site then has no idea what is going on and generates other errors. (Working on something else wiin a new environment).
Like RTMM is not standard stuff so all the work is custom.. but hey did it before at another VA so will we are trying a similar system environment.
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I think the issue is now behind us....The new system is a bit more work to set up, but the good news is that that is simple to operate. Still more to do before it is out of testing, but it lookin good so far.
Henry
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This effort looks like it will be fun. I have setup FSCloud and Discord and am looking forward to some flights.
Danny
HeloFlyer on MFC Discord
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Any can do group flights right away.. Comms and FSCloud are working perfect. Just hook up and fly a common FP..
The MFC is coming..
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Just wanted to chime in and say thanks for the work on this! I'm looking forward to participating in both features; I've wanted to try group bush flying for a while. Hope to run into some of you online soon...
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The Misty Flying Club is on "downwind" ... Everything is looking good. The basics are working fine and we are working on the graphics and web linkage. I've been "flying" it trying to understand it better ... and this one is EASY to understand. We will have it running for you soon. We want to be sure it is something that works well so you will enjoy it. Now if the darned weather would just co-operate!
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In almost 10 years of simulation I had never participated in a "group" flight.....until yesterday...Just for those who are worried...I set up discord and then FSCloud and went for a flight with Norm....start to finish 15 min. And the flight was fun. Discord was better than my phone and Norm and I have worked together almost 5 years and this is the first time we talked.
I am sure there are other systems that work just as well, but this one seems easy to set up, and easy to use...so, I like it....I'll bet you will also.
Henry
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I registered and setup Kacars. When I told Kacars to log-in an error came up indicating:
VA is requiring version 1.0.1.1. Contact your site administrator.
The current version of Kacars is 1.0.1.5 and is the version I am running. Did I miss a setup step or do you folks need to update the VA software?
Also, none of the Tours have helicopters listed in the Allowed Aircraft section. I fly helicopters. Can I use a helicopter for the tour flights? Well you please add helicopters types to the Allowed Aircraft? Helicopters I would like are: B06, B212, B412, UH1, B222.
Thanks,
Danny
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Of course.. I just built the helos into the aircraft database so yes.. and please
feel free RCFlyer to egg-beater.
Norm
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Of course.. I just built the helos into the aircraft database so yes.. and please
feel free RCFlyer to egg-beater.
Norm
Thanks Norm for the helo addition. Do you any suggestions as to the Kacars error I was getting concerning the version number?
Also, the Misty Hub Tours pdfs indicate to use Simacars. Are we to use Simacars or Kacars?
Danny
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Yes the PDF still says Simacars (because we were trying a VAM VA system when I was doing the docs.. But that VA environment or system kind of couldn't do what I needed it to do with all the RTMM locations so we switched over to a phpvms VA environment - which can handle it..
Will fix the docs once the new KAcars is in place.
Thanks Danny.
Norm
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Understand, thanks. I tried again this morning to use the Kacars free version to log-in, but, still got the version error. Is the Kacars system not working at the moment?
Danny
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The good news now is that the free kaCARSII demo has been replaced by our very own version that we call the Cigar Box....ask Doug about the heritage of that one.....but Cigar Box is now fully operational. Just go to your pilot profile and select downloads. There you will find it...download it, put it in any folder other than "programs" (I suggest a folder just for Cigar Box) and go. First time you will need the URL and your pilot number and password. Goes in easy and easy to work. There are some special parts to it especially when using it with tours in connection with the Tour Center...Just play around with it.
For more questions....please see the Misty Flying Club Sub forum at the top of the page.
Henry
MFC0001
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For those who may not have the direct link to this new MFC:
http://www.mistymooringsflyingclub.com/ (http://www.mistymooringsflyingclub.com/)
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PS: MFC up and running. Some might as what content is available to fly at MFC? (Well thanks to Henry for getting the site up and running. This is the 2nd system. The 1st just couldn't handle the RTMM load that I put on it so it got the boot!! It might be fine for flying between real airports but it just couldn't handle my forceable database expansion in trying define all the RTMM locations that I was putting into it. And it choked and cracked under the pressure..lol. So we went to a more complex system that we knew could handle it and it is.
Under this new environment, as of today: there is a total 7 tours built and running. (The 1st excursion is just a short three legged tour to get all up to speed on how things function and the process). The 7 tours at present contain 90 relatively easy flight legs of various length and are meant to be sequentially flown. These are direct flights from departure to destination. I will continue to build tours, adventures and/or excursions into various RTMM areas at MFC over time.
Non-Tour flights. I would hope that all the flyers here are familiar with Doug's RTMM FP on the Here to There page. You will notice that the RTMM FP are being updated frequently as I built flight legs at MFC for these RTMM FP.
Of the 612 FP that are contained in the RTMM FP folder, to date 203 of those FP have been updated to include MFC flight leg numbers and new destination ICAO which are in sync with the new recordable MFC flight legs.
Just load up the FP in your sim or map program, and at MFC, use the flight number in the KaCars to load up and fly and record your flights, then file the flight when you're done. This will create your own logbook and as you fly through the flights, you flight log will be built and kept as well will be able to see the various RTMM sites and know which routes/locations you have visited.
In addition have created 90 other single flight legs which are a representation of the 90 flight legs that are embedded in the tours that can be flown as single flights.
I have only scratched the surface of the MFC flying content but to date there is almost 300 regular flights that are available to be flown and all record-able via kacarsII. And much more to come, now that the site is up and running.
Norm
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Norm,
You keep referring to kacarsII, don't you really mean kacars?
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Hey Steve.....actually Norm is correct. FS Products' newest version of the kaCARS program is now kaCARSII. For us, we have created a custom version with some additional features and a customized "new Look" This interface is only supported with a host program of the same name. This unique client is called Cigar Box....see Doug for the explanation! But this is an easy version that connects automatically and provides lots of information and is used to send your Pirep.
Henry
MFC0001
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Thanks Henry. I thought I read another discussion saying II was payware?
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It all depends on you definition of payware. Yes, we have to pay to use the client and have it customized but that was true for kaCARS as well as kaCARSII. There is no cost to use "OUR" client....but it will only work with the Misty Flying Club.
Hope that clarifies all of this.
Henry
MFC0001
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What's your definition of sex? ;D
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8) according to Bill Clinton...
LOL
Sue
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lmao Sue... too funny... Just too old..er to be thinking about that.. good thing I can still fly.. that is if I don't go too fast!. lol
Norm
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Great Work !!
Just wondering if there is going to be an 'Open Flight Number' that will allow PIREP's to be filed for flights that are not listed in under "Flight Schedules" ?
There are a lot of North American airports listed, including facilities in Hawaii, but as it stands right now, a pilot cannot manually file a PIREP for any pilot-generated flights between those airports.
R.R.
P.S. The Mutley's Easter Bunny Air Rally (MEBAR) 2018 over at Mutley's Hangar is now open for registration. http://mutleyshangar.com/mebar
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Open flight# is a "Charter". And yes you can do but is for custom flights but in RTMM Territory or scenery areas so Alaska, BC, some Yukon. But I have also built most of the HI airports and all the EFMM way-points/POI in Hawaii "Doug's" EFMM scenery project for the upcoming EFMM MFC excursion. (http://return.mistymoorings.com/efmm/index.php) (http://(http://return.mistymoorings.com/efmm/index.php))
So yes an EFMM excursion is coming!! BUT for me right now the question becomes... How do we get to Hawaii to run the Hawaii EFMM tour?
1) Do we board a flight out of Alaska as a conventional passenger and travel to Hawaii? (with one "wee" airplane meal, a very stale coffee and having to paying extra for luggage over 13 lbs.lol). The start the EFMM excursion out or a Hawaii airport?
OR
2) Do we fly from Alaska to Hawaii "ourselves" as pilots in perhaps our bigger aircraft: ie: a BT67/DC-3/C-47 from Misty's Place and fly all the way down to Hawaii as a pre-tour trip before actually starting the EFMM tour from there in a RTMM C185 or DHC2 amphibian? This is the question!!
lol.
Norm
(The answer is to your question yes you can fly charters in RTMM lands. (the flight options box on the lower left - tic chater, select/load your aircraft, enter the flight # : which should be MFC-ICA1-ICA2 (where ICA1 is the departure ICAO, and ICA2 is the destination ICAO of your charter flight and a brief Route entry: IE: Via a route or direct etc. Then fly your flight and file it the same as a regular flight.
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Ok... + thanks Norm !
I'll give that a try.
P.S. Perhaps a 'Free-Flight' number for an option to manually file 'Charter' PIREPS.
Thanks again for your GREAT work !
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So... after reading all the 'Posts' about On-Line Multiplayer flights; I was thinking that since I haven't done that in 10++ years; it might be interesting to have another go at it here.
So... I went looking for my old gaming headset in the basement computer parts 'Junkyard'.
My son laughed and said: "How long ago was that ? You REALLY think it's still around ?"
Ok... Apparently I will need a new one. LOL
Any suggestions on a good quality one that is reasonably priced would be appreciated.
Rick
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Well these days all are pretty good for the basic talk and listen and many half descent and fairly inexpensive.
Myself I have had a Logitech set, then a plantronics these were wired sets and worked ok.. but over time, after my chair kept running over the wires.. the Logitech set was toast. The plantronics set still works
but I don't find it very comfortable for my head/ears.
In the past 4 or smonths, I have been getting into group fly and comms more and more. My kids got me a new set for Christmas: a Corsair 7+1 Surround speakers, wireless headset.. comfortable on the head, great sound, good mic quality, but more expensive than I would have bought myself (It was 150.00 CAN).
But a great headset and I sure notice the comfort and quality as compared to my other ones.
You don't need this but the point is if you are planning to do this, and/or use comms etc a lot then get a half descent quality and get one that is comfortable on your head.
The latest Logitech out now are very good and very comfortable - many are for @ $75-100.
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Thanks ! Really appreciate that !
I buy all my computer build components and accessories on-line, but in this case, a trip to the store to 'Try-Before-You-Buy' sounds like a better idea.
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For sure.. if they have a demo stand with the phones displayed, then you be able to feel what's best for your noggin' and earlobes. lol.
No point getting a set of phones only to find out later that it uncomfortable.
Norm
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Well Now a Flying Club Hummmmm
Well First I am old time ""returning"" Might say I had to rop out in 2015 . So getting things in order here and ran into the MFC deal.. Names ringing a bell here ? Norm, Henry ? was a member of Alaska Adventures .
I did a lot of Misty flying sorta my old Grounds ? Retired Old Pilot From US Forestry as ParkRanger . spent some time up in Alaska ..
So Downloaded few things ? this DisCord Hummmmmm new thing I guess better ? then Teamspeak ? Figure get things there first going .Waiting for some FSX Gear to come in ..
So any info like to share bring it on AM listening ..
Dale ""RangerDale""
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DALE!!! Yes we're the same Norm & Henry. Nice to see you are still in the game so to speak. It sure has been a while.
Yes indeed: the "MFC Misty Flying Club. It was underway was at the end of April and all up and running. Have built like 700 flight plans for single flights as well as 16 tours covering RTMM locations so far.. and lots more to do: there are thousands of trips to create if I ever get to it..lol.
I haven't done multiplayer flights or formal events at MFC yet. The multiplayer stuff or group flights was the Discord for comms and FSCloud part.. Have flown multi many times but will wait to the Fall to try to schedule some formal group flights or events at MFC of course with life/time permitting..lol.. (Discord is easy actually and much more flexible than TS3 .. it's like TS3 and skype combined with more options/enhancements and works great. FSCloud is easy too but I think that we flew a few years ago with with a few guys from AKA as I recall.
Anyways great you hear from you Dale. Welcome back!! and come on over!! You might have a bit of catching up to do on the RTMM scenery part but not a biggy just takes a bit of time. The MFC VA part is easy to fly as well if you want to track your flights and air time lol and you're always welcome Dale.
If you need any help or have questions please just give a holler.
Norm
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Hey Dale, Yep it's us and the Flying club is a blast. Accent on having a good time and exploring the Misty Moorings scenery. Great bunch of pilots and, as time allows, many additions and activities. Glad to see you again.....welcome
Henry
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Misty Moorings Team