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Title: Missing Lake (Avoss Lake USFS Cabin)
Post by: Doug on October 23, 2017, 04:54:58 PM
Flying to the Avoss Lake USFS cabin, a little surprise ... no lake.  It also didn't not show up on the GPS map either. Not sure what the problem might be with this one. Settings at 5 meters and 7 cm. Using Global Vector and NA Landclass with Pilots Mesh.

Doug
Title: Re: Missing Lake (Avoss Lake USFS Cabin)
Post by: ualani on October 23, 2017, 05:18:24 PM
Here's what I see at the same location. Only difference is I'm using FSXDX10 and no Pilot's Mesh.
Title: Re: Missing Lake (Avoss Lake USFS Cabin)
Post by: Doug on October 23, 2017, 06:35:39 PM
Just for fun, I unchecked Pilots Mesh ... got the same result. So it must be something else.
Thanks for that pic and post!
Title: Re: Missing Lake (Avoss Lake USFS Cabin)
Post by: Doug on October 23, 2017, 07:16:44 PM
I started removing things ... the ORBXOPENLC group (NA1, NA2, Europe, etc) was causing the problem. When I unchecked these. The lake returned.

Doug
Title: Re: Missing Lake (Avoss Lake USFS Cabin)
Post by: dbutterf on October 23, 2017, 08:16:35 PM
Doug,

Do not think it's OrbX products. I have NA and Alaska, this is what I see.

(http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/10/23/MM.jpg) (http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/image/GHHD)
Title: Re: Missing Lake (Avoss Lake USFS Cabin)
Post by: Doug on October 23, 2017, 08:30:08 PM
Hi Dale .. all I know is I 'unchecked' them and I'm seeing the lake.  So maybe it is interfering with something else? Beats me.  Just flew back from Avoss Lake to Sitka, everything looking OK, who knows what the elves are doing in our computers while we sleep?? :-)  Thank you for the pic and the comment ... curiouser and curiouser.
Title: Re: Missing Lake (Avoss Lake USFS Cabin)
Post by: jeff3163 on October 23, 2017, 08:47:13 PM
Sitting at Avoss Lake cabin.  ;)

(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/jeff3163/MOON/Flight%20Simulator%20X%20Files/2017/Prepar3D%202017-10-23%2017-44-13-97.jpg~original)
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/jeff3163/MOON/Flight%20Simulator%20X%20Files/2017/Prepar3D%202017-10-23%2017-51-06-92.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Missing Lake (Avoss Lake USFS Cabin)
Post by: Doug on October 23, 2017, 08:56:00 PM
It has to be "where" I have things in my scenery library.  When I uncheck the ORBXOPENLC folders, it works fine.

The "pink" shows they are "unchecked". I've got them right below the FTX stuff. then the OLC stuff below. Is your's that way Jeff?  This configuration gives me the lake fine. Everything else looks OK too, but ORBXOPENLC folders are "off."

Doug
Title: Re: Missing Lake (Avoss Lake USFS Cabin)
Post by: jeff3163 on October 23, 2017, 09:04:50 PM
Here is what mine looks like. (or what you can see of it anyway.)  :P  N and S America near bottom.

(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/jeff3163/MOON/Flight%20Simulator%20X%20Files/2017/OLC%20Placement.png~original)
Title: Re: Missing Lake (Avoss Lake USFS Cabin)
Post by: Doug on October 23, 2017, 09:09:36 PM
Interesting, your ORBX!OPENLC files are below Tongass Fjords. Do you have OLC-NA_Lights, OLC_NA1, OLC_NA2 and OLC_SA1? If so where are those?
Title: Re: Missing Lake (Avoss Lake USFS Cabin)
Post by: jeff3163 on October 23, 2017, 09:15:06 PM
I don't have ANY named OLC anything!  What is that? ???  Only ORBX!OPENLC_???? in mine.   :-\
Yes, my Tongass Fjords is the "insertion point" for the OpenLC files, as specified in FTX Central 3.
Title: Re: Missing Lake (Avoss Lake USFS Cabin)
Post by: Doug on October 23, 2017, 09:16:25 PM
Darned if I know what they are.  I'll take them out and turn on ORBXOPENLC again and see what happens.

Update:  OK, I took those OLC one out. I put the ORBX!OPENLC folders below Tongass X ... everything looks good.

Doug
Title: Re: Missing Lake (Avoss Lake USFS Cabin)
Post by: jeff3163 on October 23, 2017, 09:29:21 PM
It appears that the OLC files may be a result of a "manual install".  The folder names are OLC, but Orbx names the entry ORBX!OPENLC when it installs it.  If you do it manually, the result would be files named as yours were.  So you had doubled the install of Open LC.  Does that sound close?
Title: Re: Missing Lake (Avoss Lake USFS Cabin)
Post by: Doug on October 23, 2017, 09:33:31 PM
It makes as much sense as anything! :-)   Flying back to Sitka now, everything looks beautiful. Must have been those files screwing me up. Thanks Jeff (and the other folks too!)

D
Title: Re: Missing Lake (Avoss Lake USFS Cabin)
Post by: jeff3163 on October 23, 2017, 09:37:44 PM
 :)



Happy Flying!  8)
Title: Re: Missing Lake (Avoss Lake USFS Cabin)
Post by: nbrich1 on October 24, 2017, 07:47:06 AM
Doug remember your insertion point chart!  LC has to be below the all of the FTX entrres and below Tongass.  You have a conflict and it is a fatal CTD. 

Insertion Point - FTX is below your 3party adds. (For me that is my RTMM libraries)

Insertion point - OpenLC has to below Tongass Lower)  (which will sit those LC entries just above Bathmetry)

With these insertion points set as above, that places Tongass between all the FTX entries and all openLC entries which is the correct location.



 
Title: Re: Missing Lake (Avoss Lake USFS Cabin)
Post by: Doug on October 24, 2017, 08:31:27 AM
What was throwing me off was the OLC folders. I think Jeff was correct. Must have been some manual entry. And I had them below the real LC folders. I’ve got it all correct now. That chart is right on.

Doug
Title: Re: Missing Lake (Avoss Lake USFS Cabin)
Post by: nbrich1 on October 24, 2017, 02:00:51 PM
Roger Doug.. Will be nice to see you underway again!! Glad that's taken care of!. Good show.

Norm

Title: Re: Missing Lake (Avoss Lake USFS Cabin)
Post by: Doug on October 24, 2017, 05:26:50 PM
Flying the RTMM Flight Plans again, this time with an ending indicating altitude, take off medium ... Avoss Lake USFS Cabin from Sitka, AK - 1200 - W-W.pln ...

So you'll be able to look at a plan and know what kind of plane to use and what altitude to expect. I'm finished with the A's into the B's now. (New RTMM Flight Plans.zip being put up as I do this).  I'm also making a "scenario" for each of the locations so people can "start" there if they want to. That's still on the beta page.

I'm finding little things that need to be fixed at some of the locations, and am making slight adjustments in the flight plans. Since we still have the problem of P3D V3 not working (Win 10 update problem), the IS3 isn't operational, so I can't fix these as I see them, making a list. We're supposed to have a fix on Nov 14, so then I can go after this list of things I've found and make things better.

But it looks like I have P3D V4 finally sorted out and it is working fine. Snowing today in Valdez.

Doug

Title: Re: Missing Lake (Avoss Lake USFS Cabin)
Post by: dbutterf on October 25, 2017, 04:20:24 PM
Doug,

Here are my Scenery Library order and FTXC insertion points

(http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/10/25/RTMM.jpg) (http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/image/GH9S)
(http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/10/25/RTMM1.jpg) (http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/image/GH9J)
Title: Re: Missing Lake (Avoss Lake USFS Cabin)
Post by: Penzoil3 on October 25, 2017, 06:35:27 PM
 8) Doug-LOL
(http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/04/Microsoft-Windows-10.jpg)
Title: Re: Missing Lake (Avoss Lake USFS Cabin)
Post by: Doug on October 25, 2017, 10:08:02 PM
I love it !!!

:-)