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Title: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on April 12, 2015, 07:16:53 PM
Medical Facilities Web Page is Open

The Medical Facilities Web Page is now open for everyone.  At present, we only have 5 "Medical Dispatches" that are ready, but this will be growing as time goes by, many new ones are planned. We have have re-engineered 21 Medical Facilities, making sure they have helipads and "medical docks."  We will try to make as many of these dispatchs for both helicopter and fixed wing (those will end in a "B"....if Helicopter only, and "H", if Fixed Wing only, an "F").

To get started, you will have three files to download:

1. RTMM Medical Facilities Library TEMP.zip .... add this where you put your libraries and activate it.

2. RTMM Medical Dispatches.zip .... this gives you the dispatches (all of them! ... in a single file)

3. RTMM Medical Facilities.zip ... this gives you all of the medical facilities.

Watch for the dates on these three files so you will know if you need a new download. They will be changing as we add things.

When you look at a Dispatch on the dispatch table, look closely under "RTMM" to see if there is something else you will need for the dispatch.
If an RTMM scenery is needed to run the dispatch, it is listed and linked. If it DOES NOT have a update date and you already have the scenery, then there is no need to re-download it. If it has an update date under it, then you should re-download it and install it in your scenery library. (Always best to REMOVE the old folder completely and then put in the new one).

NOTAM: These extra downloads are necessary as changes have been made to add the medical docks. But we also know that many of you do not have all of the scenery locations downloaded, so this gives you a quick way to know what is needed so your trip will be successful.

Also you will see an "Information" link. Clicking on this gives you the PDF for the dispatch, the instructions for the dispatch. Clicking on the Topo Map link gives you an interactive topo map of the area ... which you will find valuable with this "new kind" of flying for RTMM fans. There is also a "local map" link which gives you an overview of the dispatch with a Plan-G map.

For those of you who are familiar with the way we make flight plans at RTMM, this will be quite a departure toward realism, and with it a new level of difficulty.  You no longer are give a "low and slow, autopilot flight plan".  With the Medical Dispatches, you are given a waypoint that you put into your GPS. This give you a direct line-of-sight route to the emergency "target." How you get there is up to you and your skills. You may well have 4000 foot mountains between you and the target.  If it is a clear day, you can fly high safely clearning them and coming back down safely. HOWEVER... with typical weather in the area, that will be rare and you will have to pick your way through the maze of fjords and river valleys staying below the cloud cover, yet getting to your destination the best way possible.

On the page, we include "how to" for (1) Putting a waypoint into the GPS and (2) how to start your aircraft at a specific starting position. Both of these methods are used extensively with this project, so we felt it would be a good idea to make sure everyone knows how they work.

When you do not care to have the medical facilities and the dispatches active ... simply uncheck those two items in your scenery library.

I cannot thank Steve Downing enough for the hours of time he has spent on the Medical Facilities, this whole project was also his original idea. Thank you Steve D!  Also, Steve Weinkamer came through for us again on this project giving us new medical facility objects (these are in the RTMM Medical Facilities Library TEMP.zip).  These are great additions and specially made just for the RTMM Medical Facilities project. A big thank you to Steve W!

You will find the Medical Facilities Project will take you to many places you have probably never seen in RTMM (another reason for the extra downloads). We are purposely creating Medical Dispatches that use the less-frequented area.  You will be surprised at the number of Sea Plane Bases that are alive with AI Aircraft ... that you've probably never visited.  You will get to visit many of them with this project.

New places, a new way of flying, new objects and a new reason to enjoy going from "Here2There" at RTMM.

Doug Linn/RTMM

PS...it is "new" ... things are "different" and there may be a glitch or two. Just let us know and we'll smooth it out for you.
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on April 12, 2015, 08:08:45 PM
Downloading Scenery "again".  I've already been asked about this so let me explain. 

Dean River had a major problem with the original scenery, the helipad was "soft" and  the building was raised in the front. I'm not sure when this happened, but since the problem was the "medical" building that was there, i replaced the bad one with one of Steve W's new ones, put in a flatten and that now is ok. A notam was up that Dean River was updated, since i did that when doing the Medical Facilities, I knew no one would have it. Hence the need to re-download Dean River.

Ocean Falls  When putting in the Medical Facilities, there was no room for a hospital where it should be. Since I did all the scenery on that location, I knew "which trees to move" so I moved them and put in the medical facility. This changed the shoreline area of Ocean Falls. I also had to remove some boats where the hospital dock is ... otherwise there was no place there to park a float plane. So again, an updated download was necessary as the "base scenery" had to change to support the Med Facility project. So I put it in as an update.

NAC Bases We just got a new update on this one from the author (during this project), so the medical facilities part (E013B) was worked into this NEW update.  So that's why that one needs the update.

We won't be doing a lot of updating like this, but if we see problems or have natural updates, then we'll warn you to upload the new scenery and take out the old.  You will notice some that DO NOT have an update, Eddystone Rock is one ... it is "underlined/linked" but you DO NOT have to re-download it if you already have it. So it does not have an "update date" under it.  But we are putting the links there for the newer folks who may not yet have downloaded something.  This gives them a quick link to what they need.  So let me repeat ... if there is not an "update date" under the scenery (under RTMM on the table) you DO NOT have to re-download it.  But if we have to make a change in a scenery, then you do.

One other thing ... we might have a problem with PeaceHealth Ketchikan. There have been reports of "objects in the air." For me I do not see this.  The PAKT Payware "could" be the problem as the terrain was changed around the airport.  We are looking into this problem.

As stated above and on the website ... if you see something amiss, let us know. This represents Hours and Hours of work by the team. But even with all the time spent, there may be a detail missing somewhere. Help us find those problems and we'll fix them for you.

Doug

PS Attached is PeaceHealth Ketchikan with no flying objects ...



Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Bradallen43 on April 12, 2015, 10:26:57 PM
Have fun
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on April 13, 2015, 09:07:27 AM
There is an incompatibility problem with the PAKT SP1 Pay Ware upgrade.  I have now put a NOTAM to that effect into the Dispatch warning folks there. It is also noted on the Web Page.  There is a new table at the bottom of the new web page that will handle things such as this. You will find the "fix" there.  The new table was added to the page index.
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on April 15, 2015, 10:26:35 AM
We have updated and added several new "MedEvac" missions. E009B through E015B have all been checked and are ready for use.  There are a lot of fun to fly.  The "realism" of using the waypoint (rather than a detailed flight plan) leaves the decisions of how to do the flight up to the pilot.  Decisions can be made by looking at the topo map (link provided on each dispatch) and by carefully watching Plan-G for low and slow routing in bad weather.

You will find that one of the challenges is finding the medical facility when you are returning with the patient. This, of course, for a new "real" pilot would also be a challenge. The more experienced pilots who know the territory will know exactly how to get to them.  One small "helper" we are putting in is a row of flashing red lights along the hospital hospital tie-up at the dock.  If you fly over the facility at Dusk ... you will see the lights and know where to land.
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Tenpin on April 15, 2015, 11:21:32 AM
Thank you very much for all this great scenery and addon. I'm enjoying the heck out of it.
I have a quesiton about Ocean Falls Med Center. I'm not seeing the medical signs or the buildinig. I know itI has to be something I'm not doing. I removed everything this morning and reinstalled with the latest but it's still not there.

(http://)
Regards,
Ken aka Tenpin
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: spud on April 15, 2015, 11:34:37 AM
Tenpin,
in this dispatch you will need to download Ocean Falls scenery from the download page.  It has been updated (4/11/15) to add the facility.


(Doug, I'm not the only one who had trouble it seems)
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Tenpin on April 15, 2015, 12:23:12 PM
Thank you Spud.  Suggest a note in  the Medical Facilities about this upgrade.

Cheers,
Ken
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on April 15, 2015, 01:45:03 PM
It is right at the top of the Dispatches Table:

NOTAM: Under RTMM, if an "UPDATE Date" is NOT showing and you already have the scenery, there is no need to re-download it. If you do not have the scenery OR you see an "update date" then you should click on the link, download the scenery and install it.

The Ocean Falls scenery has and Update Date under it meaning it must be downloaded. There will not be many of these.  If the Update Date is NOT under the scenery needed name, then if you already have the scenery, you do not need to re-download. But if that Update Date is there, you must re-download it.

Sceneries without the update date are a courtesy for new people who may not have the scenery downloaded. This alerts them they must download it ... and if they click on the link, it comes down for them. We are trying to take care of everyone.

Glad you are enjoying it ... I'm having fun "flying" them myself. After I make one, I fly it and see how it works ... with bad weather, these can be darned difficult!

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on April 15, 2015, 02:10:55 PM
Let's try stating it this way:

NOTAM: Under SCENERY column ...

I changed it, perhaps this will be clearer.  There are three scenarios ... we update the base scenery, so everyone needs to download it. (In one case, we had to move some things we put in so we could add the medical center at Ocean Falls). The second is like you will see for E016B. Here, "Waterfall" is used, but nothing was changed in the Waterfall scenery. Yet if you DO NOT have Waterfall, you should download it or things will not work, the same if you are new.  Not everyone has downloaded all of the locations, so we have to be sure to let people know what scenery locations are needed to make each one of these work. 

You will also note for E012B ...there is no scenery there.  Everything used in this one is built into PFJ.

All part of doing something "new" ... we'll all get the hang of it :-)

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on April 15, 2015, 03:15:03 PM
GPS and Starting Points HOW TO

I added and fixed up two "how to" areas on the new Medical Facilities Web Page. Some folks are not sure how to use a starting point latitude and latitude and heading.   So if you go to the page, in the top index, if you click on GPS or Starting Points ... it takes you down to the area where they are both explained.
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Tenpin on April 16, 2015, 12:09:27 PM
I'm sorry guys but I am still missing the medical facilites at Ocean Falls.
I have two RTTM folders in my FSX Addon Scenery folder.
RTTM Object Library
RTTM Scenery Library
I placed the latest  "Ocean Falls"; which is working just fine ,  and the  three latest Medical folders, Dispatches, Facilities and Library Temp in the  Scenery Libraary.
Any suggestons?

Cheers,
Ken



Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Tenpin on April 16, 2015, 12:26:59 PM
Quote from: Tenpin on April 16, 2015, 12:09:27 PM
I'm sorry guys but I am still missing the medical facilites at Ocean Falls.
I have two RTTM folders in my FSX Addon Scenery folder.
RTTM Object Library
RTTM Scenery Library
I placed the latest  "Ocean Falls"; which is working just fine ,  and the  three latest Medical folders, Dispatches, Facilities and Library Temp in the  Scenery Libraary.
Any suggestons?

Cheers,
Ken

Well dumb me. I went into Dispatches and downloaded Ocean Falls from there. (That's what you guys have been saying all along). Deleted Ocean falls and installed with this download. It's there. I can now fly med's and all from there.
I'm placing myself on time out 8) :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: spud on April 16, 2015, 01:45:47 PM
Hmmm, just go to your room.  ;D
 8)
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on April 18, 2015, 08:38:31 PM
If you think it is a little Crazy from your end of it, you should see the MedEvac Dispatch (sausage) factory from the production side. It starts to look easy for the user, but keeping it all straight takes a pretty good process that we are still perfecting ... but it is getting easier.

There are now 10 active MedEvac dispatches.  Everything is reported to be working fine. These are "simple" scenery packages at the emergency site, but really focused on the "Here2There" aspect of RTMM. Just because you have a waypoint rarely means you have a straight line of flight, especially if you are using a weather program.

When we put a new one up for the QC team to check out, you'll see a "P E N D I N G  Q C" in the information column. It is not a good idea to "play" with these yet. These are beta and you can run into all kinds of problems. Stick with the ones that are done ... there are now plenty to enjoy (and more coming!)

Again, if you have an idea for one of these, let us know, we'll give it a try if we can.  Give us the circumstances and the latitude and longitude. We'll take it from there.

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: spud on April 18, 2015, 11:37:41 PM
Quote from: Tenpin on April 16, 2015, 12:09:27 PM
I'm sorry guys but I am still missing the medical facilites at Ocean Falls.
I have two RTTM folders in my FSX Addon Scenery folder.
RTTM Object Library
RTTM Scenery Library
I placed the latest  "Ocean Falls"; which is working just fine ,  and the  three latest Medical folders, Dispatches, Facilities and Library Temp in the  Scenery Libraary.
Any suggestons?

Cheers,
Ken

Ken,
you only have two libraries in your Addon Scenery folder?  If so you wont see a lot of objects in your RTMM scenery because there should be six (6) RTMM libraries plus an RTMM Temp Medical LIB for a total of seven (7) libraries.
 8)
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on April 19, 2015, 06:56:42 AM
Run scenery tester in the objects library page...it will show you what libraries are missing.

Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Tenpin on April 19, 2015, 10:23:00 AM
Quote from: spud on April 18, 2015, 11:37:41 PM
Quote from: Tenpin on April 16, 2015, 12:09:27 PM
I'm sorry guys but I am still missing the medical facilites at Ocean Falls.
I have two RTTM folders in my FSX Addon Scenery folder.
RTTM Object Library
RTTM Scenery Library
I placed the latest  "Ocean Falls"; which is working just fine ,  and the  three latest Medical folders, Dispatches, Facilities and Library Temp in the  Scenery Libraary.
Any suggestons?

Cheers,
Ken

Ken,
you only have two libraries in your Addon Scenery folder?  If so you wont see a lot of objects in your RTMM scenery because there should be six (6) RTMM libraries plus an RTMM Temp Medical LIB for a total of seven (7) libraries.
 8)

Hi Spud, I should have said more about those two folders. I have all the objects libraries and such in the RTTM Objects folder, and all the Misty Moorings scenery packages in the RTTM Scenery folder.
You folks are doing the community a heck of a great service. Thank you again.   
Ran the test BGL. Here's the results:

Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on April 20, 2015, 02:05:34 PM
Now there's trouble at Anchorage Cove ... best get on the radio and see if you can help them out. We now have 14 MedEvac dispatches up on the new web page. So far, everything is working fine. As you try these, if you see a problem, let us know ... we're still "new" at the process, so I don't doubt we can make it better as we go.

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: av8erjm on April 21, 2015, 02:11:13 PM
On Dean River dispatch, thought I'd start at the top and here's the but, when I click on inst it says error not found, then when I click topo up comes the inst also in the heading it says E009B, but yet it says use GPS to direct you to E009E, typo??. Anywho, after I got that sorted out, as always enjoyed the flight, OH and to bad about the guys A-frame burning to the ground ;)
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on April 21, 2015, 03:15:40 PM
Aha! Thank you. That's what we are looking for ... thanks for pointing it out. I think it is all fixed now. The gremlins are well and alive with this program! It is really 'different' what we are trying to do on the web-side, different file structure, etc. Its working, but we are still getting USED to it. Sorry for the confusion.  If you see anything else, let us know.

NOTAM: for the developers, all of the "reception" files are now completed for all of the present medical facilities. The red flashing lights will only come on when this file is "on".  The lights are very helpful for people who are having problems finding the medical docks ... if they fly at dusk or DAWN (night not recommended), the lights will be flashing to guide them to the dock.  Also medical personnel only now show up when the "reception" file is "on" .. they do  not show up when the "facilities" folder is "on."

"Down/Dawn" corrected.
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: spud on April 21, 2015, 11:07:40 PM
Quote from: Doug on April 21, 2015, 03:15:40 PM
Aha! Thank you. That's what we are looking for ... thanks for pointing it out. I think it is all fixed now. The gremlins are well and alive with this program! It is really 'different' what we are trying to do on the web-side, different file structure, etc. Its working, but we are still getting USED to it. Sorry for the confusion.  If you see anything else, let us know.

NOTAM: for the developers, all of the "reception" files are now completed for all of the present medical facilities. The red flashing lights will only come on when this file is "on".  The lights are very helpful for people who are having problems finding the medical docks ... if they fly at dusk or down (night not recommended), the lights will be flashing to guide them to the dock.  Also medical personnel only now show up when the "reception" file is "on" .. they do  not show up when the "facilities" folder is "on."

That should be dusk or DAWN  :P
 8)
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on April 26, 2015, 03:27:18 PM
OK, we now have completed 29 Medical Facilities with a few more to add. We also no have 20 MedEvac dispatches over a wide range of terrain. Some difficult, some relatively easy. This is an interesting new way of flying, going for the "waypoint" instead of following a low and slow flight plan. There are many alternate routes people could take depending upon the weather. Enjoy!

Doug

PS Steve Weinkamer tried his hand at making a MedEvac ... you can see his at slot E025B ... thank you Steve!
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on April 29, 2015, 05:50:59 PM
PeaceHealth Ketchikan - deactivated

Because there was a compatability problem with the PAYWARE PAKT, we decided to deactivate the PeaceHealth Ketchikan hospital and corresponding medical dock.  A new facility has been put in at Misty's Place .. the Misty's Place Trauma Center.  So medical emergencies will fly into Misty's Place. This is the best we could do so we would not have problems from the PayWare crowd later.

We had one dispatch E010B that has an emergency at New Eddystone Rock and returned to PeaceHealth. That has now all been rerouted. The MedEvac now leaves from PAKT ... and returns to Misty's Place Trauma Center.

You will have to re-download Misty's Place because we had to change some of the base scenery to put in the new Trauma Center.  All the changes are "up" on the web now and ready for download.

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: jsapair on April 29, 2015, 11:15:39 PM
Not a rotor head but just wanted to say that you guys at RTMM are amazing how you step up to the plate for the wants and the needs of the masses. Fuel pumps in the remote locations? Done. Medical facilities with heli-pads? Done. You guys never cease to amaze me. I'd even give up my last Bud Lite. Uhhh, well, we could talk about it.
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: spud on April 29, 2015, 11:33:25 PM
Your last Bud Lite?  My gawd man have you gone 'round the bend!!!!'?
 8)
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: av8erjm on April 30, 2015, 01:15:27 PM
My Rouge Ale maybe,
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on April 30, 2015, 03:20:28 PM
JJ. You don't have to fly helos to do these. If the name of the dispatch ends in B or F, then it handles BOTH or FIXED WING. All but 2 are B. So fly them with an amphibian. This is why we put in all of the medical docks and special waypoints for them.... So this works for planes too!

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on May 02, 2015, 10:36:39 AM
New things on the medical facilities page are happening. Steve W has made some new objects for the TEMP medical library (there is a new download for it).  I've done a couple more MedEvacs working up in the CIRP area. One of the aspects of this project is that for people who don't have all 900 scenery location (and there are plenty of those people), this is a great way to sort of "download" as you have fun.  For instance, if you don't have any CIRP, If you look at E030B ... it tells you to download Summit Ice Station and Soule Glacier ... there are links to these, just click, download and install. When you fly the MedEvac, you'll be seeing a couple of new things you may not have ever seen before.

(Again, if you already have the necessary scenery, there is no need to re-download it UNLESS it has a date under it, meaning it was updated ... we intend to keep this to a minimum).

Flying the CIRP (ice stations area) is very different, if you haven't done it. They are all at high altitude, and you will probably be going to sea level for landing. But add weather to the altitude and there is some VERY tricky flying with these ... a lot of fun.

Keep up with the three zip files to download, the Library, the Dispatches and the Medical Centers.  They are easy to download and install.

Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on May 04, 2015, 06:23:19 PM
Steve Downing and I are wondering if people are using the Medical Facilities Page. We see many hits on the page and lots of downloads, but we are not getting a lot of discussion, it would be interesting to see what people are thinking.   Let us know.

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: stiletto2 on May 04, 2015, 09:17:27 PM
Hi Doug, this is a great idea for feedback.   I will soon be working on adding 6 more dispatches in The Western Chugach - Part 1 area and would love to hear what the RTMM users like about the current dispatches and what they would like to see in some future ones.

Rod
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: TheGravedigger on May 05, 2015, 01:19:48 PM
I don't know about everyone else, but I'm using them and LOVING them!  On several occasions, I've flown in conditions that would normally kept me grounded, because I've "known" that someone at the other end of the dispatch was "in danger".  I suppose that's much like the real-world rescue pilots, and gives you a new perspective on things.

I especially love the little extras like the smoke markers and the gloves on the EMT's.  They add a nice depth to the experience.  Keep 'em coming before I fly them all up!  I'm not normally a big poster, but I'm definitely grateful for your efforts.  Many thanks for all the hard work!

(BTW, did you know that a Blackhawk is a tight fit on a standard helipad?  Ask me how I know.  I can see why the Seahawk moved the tail wheel!)
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: stiletto2 on May 05, 2015, 02:14:11 PM
Good to hear from you Robert.   Okay....how do you know about the Blackhawk?

Rod
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: sddinnh on May 05, 2015, 02:46:15 PM
Glad you're enjoying them Robert and believe me, we're trying to keep up  :o  One thing you can do to stretch them out is if you happen to fly a mission in good weather, keep a note of that.  Then the next time you hit a stretch of bad weather, go back and fly that mission over.  You'll find it's like flying a totally different mission  ;D  In building them and doing QC on them, I've flown every one (some of them multiple times  ;D ) and I still enjoy them when I fly them a second or third time.
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: TheGravedigger on May 05, 2015, 05:55:36 PM
Quote from: stiletto2 on May 05, 2015, 02:14:11 PM
Good to hear from you Robert.   Okay....how do you know about the Blackhawk?

Rod

Well, when you squeeze into the Steamboat Bay helipad in gusty winds, and make what you think is a good touchdown (a la Bell 407), only to see your tail wheel hanging three feet out in space, it makes you rethink things.
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: stiletto2 on May 05, 2015, 08:17:22 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: TheGravedigger on May 05, 2015, 10:03:06 PM
Quote from: sddinnh on May 05, 2015, 02:46:15 PM
Then the next time you hit a stretch of bad weather, go back and fly that mission over.  You'll find it's like flying a totally different mission  ;D 

I'll give you an example of that from a recent mission I flew.  I'm a hospital pharmacist at a burn center, and have an acute appreciation for the severity of burn cases.  Choppers on the pad delivering or taking off patients has become a routine thing, and the cases are often serious.

I recently flew the Dean River to the Segutlat village mission.  The weather was terrible: a late-season snowstorm with low ceilings at around 1200 feet.  I chose the Quest Kodiak over a chopper for the GPS display and instrument capabilities.  With the low clouds, I opted to follow the river.  Of course, the further I went, the higher the ground rose.  Eventually, I was forced up into the clouds, and all I could do was climb while I tried to stay over the river, and off the mountains.  Eventually, I cleared the peaks, and set a course for Port Hardy, which was the closest ILS. 

The funny thing is that my real-world perspective had me seeing a person, badly burned from a fire, in critical condition, lying there waiting for a rescue that just wasn't going to happen.  This probably isn't an uncommon occurance in that part of the world, and  I imagine that the real-world rescue pilots go through this routinely, but I doubt that it ever gets easier for them to have to abort.

At least, in the sim, I was able to go back and get him the next day when the weather cleared. 
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: gwplotts on May 12, 2015, 04:53:25 PM
RTMM MedEvac Dispatch #E015B is listed as Herring bay, and it should be Hunter Bay Cannery. Not sure if this the right place to put his, but an admin can move if necessary. The GPS waypoint is to the correct location, just the narrative and the graphic are incorrect. Great mission
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on May 12, 2015, 05:24:11 PM
GW ... darned good catch!!!  Thank you!  I got it fixed.  That's exactly the kind of help we are looking for, if you see anything else, let us know.

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Rangerick on May 12, 2015, 07:58:54 PM
Once again you folks have out-done yourselves  !

Just when you think you guys can't come up with anything better... you DO !!!!!


P.S.  I've attached a pictorial Q & A   ;)
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on May 12, 2015, 08:29:10 PM
We are looking at efficiency, no wasted ambulance gas.  When Spud passed out from welcoming all the new guys, we were having to drive him all the way to PAKT on the (new) road and park him in the ER at Ketchikan General...now we just drag him next door and leave him on the porch. Saves gas. He has an open tab both at the bar and at the Trauma Center. Efficiency!
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: jsapair on May 12, 2015, 09:39:16 PM
You boys are always thinkin'. I'm traumatized. Gimme a double. Put it on Spud's tab.
                                      JJ
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: spud on May 12, 2015, 10:38:16 PM
Well now I'm hurt!
I know without a doubt that I can "fall" far enough to hit the porch of the Misty Facility all on my own. :D
 8)
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: jsapair on May 13, 2015, 12:08:35 AM
Spoken like a true Navy pilot, Spud. Trajectory is everything. Is ILS available for a porch landing? Check on the glide slope, please. I might need to know it myself.
                                       JJ
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: spud on May 13, 2015, 11:20:33 AM
JJ,
FWIW the ILS porch glide slope is a non-standard 4.3°.  Makes it a bit hard on the landing because the porch is not carpeted.     :o :P
 8)
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Bradallen43 on May 14, 2015, 07:33:54 PM
Remember though that Spud's a retired Naval Aviator. Pilots are in those other branches of the military.

 :)
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on May 15, 2015, 09:22:24 AM
Well we have about 35 "functioning" MedEvacs up on the web page now.  Many different kinds, lengths, difficulties, etc. When you fly one, give us feedback. We need to know what "kind" you are enjoying the most so we will make more of those. We may need one or two more medical facilities, but we have most of the area covered pretty well ... if a need arises, we'll build it for you.

So we are focusing on the MedEvacs that fly into these facilities. One thing we are trying to do is create them so you can see "new" things you probably have not seen before. In Tongass X, for instance, there are many wonderful little airstrips that are rarely used. We are flying FROM those, to an accident site, then onto a Medical facility. That way, you get to see a new little airport (that's always been there), and have some fun with a MedEvac.

Also, if you have an "idea" for one .. or even are brave enough to "design" one ... let us know. We'll be happy to help you through the process and or use your idea if possible.

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Rangerick on May 15, 2015, 10:49:28 AM
7 done and 28 to go.

Just a few words to describe this project:  Awesome... Great... Wonderful...  !

Now.... if I can just find that darn helicopter in E013B  ;)   
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on May 15, 2015, 11:26:24 AM
Great .. be sure you have the scenery "in and activated" for E013 ... without the necessary scenery (under the scenery column), it is a digital ghost! :-)  "037" is the most difficult right now. So difficult I don't know if people will even like it. But it is probably one of the most realistic.  As folks see things they "like" or "dislike" I hope they let us know ... that will guide what we do in the future.  More will be coming, but we'll base them on feedback.

I fly them too after I make them ... I'm really enjoying not having a specific (automatic) flight plan that I can sit back and watch as the computer does the work. These take some real "bush" flying. Getting around the mountains ... and add weather ... oh my ... 'ya wonder how the real guys do it!

Thanks for the post, .... and keep us posted.

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Rangerick on May 15, 2015, 12:28:04 PM
Thanks for the reply Doug !

Should have said E031B... NOT 013, but I guess you figured that out.

Went up again this morning... NADA

DUH... I 'assumed'  031 was in the Dispatches file I downloaded previously...   NOPE   :-[

Downloaded the latest file that includes Dispatches up to 039

Gasin' up and goin' up again.

P.S.  You're right... this one is tough.  Narrow valley with a STEEP climb at the end.   EXCELLENT !
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on May 15, 2015, 12:55:05 PM
This whole things is still in "semi-beta" as far as I'm concerned. We've check them more than once, but with all the changing we are doing, there is always a chance something could change. So we really appreciate your giving a close look to them too.  Little things, the AI traffic at Wrangell ran right over the helipad!  So we changed Wrangell around to accommodate it. The road was too bumpy to land on in E39, so I put in a flatten and lengthened it to make it more possible for a fixed wing to land and take off. (Those are the aircrafts with the propeller on the front!).  Those are the kinds of adjustments we are making. And with these all being in the same zip file, with each correction we are uploading the entire folder. (A great target for computer elves!).  It is so much more "settled down" now than it was a week ago. But just so everyone knows ... it still might have some things we can improve.  Always listening.

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Rangerick on May 15, 2015, 02:45:19 PM
Good News + Bad News

Good News... downloaded the 'new' dispatch file + The Helicopter c/w orange smoke is there.

Bad News... also downloaded the latest Med. Facilities + Med. Faciliries Lib. Temp files after deleting the old ones from Scenery Lib. + Addon Scenery... but they're not showing up now on GPS and P3D is telling me
"Addon Scenery\RTMM Medical Facilities\Scenery in scenery Area 175 not found"

FYI... on the dispatch info sheet it shows "Stewart Trauma Centre as M030B and M031B"

Also noticed there's no  E031B   reception.bgl file ?

Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on May 15, 2015, 03:12:28 PM
Dispatch is fixed to show Stewart Medical facility as M030B ... good catch.  Also, there is now a "reception" for E031B which is M030 ... (gets confusing doesn't it!) :-)  So two good things you found that we've corrected (new dispatch folder up at site at 3:07 PM).

We didn't take anything "out" (which would cause a missing slot at your 175).  Go into the sim and "DELETE AREA" for the RTMM Medical Facilities ... go into where you put your addons and delete the folder for it there also.  Then download the new one, open the sim and "ADD AREA" to your Scenery Library and activate it. That should take care of the "slot missing" problem.

Try it and let us know.
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Rangerick on May 15, 2015, 04:14:18 PM
Thanks !

Have a GREAT weekend !
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on May 17, 2015, 01:12:57 PM
Questions to Users ...

Are any of you using this using the dispatches and maps that are in the RTMM Medical Dispatches.zip?  Or are you getting the dispatch and map from the web page.  My reason for asking, we can make that a much quicker download if we simply use the web page to get the "instructions" or see the "map."  I'd then pull all the dispatches and maps out of the RTMM Medical Dispatch.zip download ... it would come down much quicker.

Comments?

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Dieter on May 17, 2015, 01:43:29 PM
From my point of view, you might delete  them from  "RTMM Medical Dispatches.zip"
The interested user has to make a flight planning before flying a MedEvac operation.
So it's not a problem visiting the web page to get appropriate planning informations there.

Dieter
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: TheGravedigger on May 17, 2015, 04:49:39 PM
I'm with Dieter.  I generally pick my mission from the website, and have already got the necessary information pulled up.  I rarely look at the maps in the Dispatches download.
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: TheGravedigger on May 17, 2015, 05:07:10 PM
BTW, while I'm thinking about it, I had an idea the other day for a mission that has a bit of a problem-solving challenge to it:

An injured person has a severe pneumothorax (collapsed lung), that requires that they be kept at a fairly controlled altitude.  As a result, the aircraft flying the rescue mission must remain below a predetermined altitude: 1,500 ft, 2,000 ft, whatever.  The trick is that a particular route from the dust-off site is not given, and the pilot must find a way through the terrain that meets the altitude requirement. 

For all the other medicos out there, I realize that altitude requirements for a pneumothorax are not that restrictive.  However, significant altitude changes should be taken into consideration during transport in severe cases. 

Hey, this is all for fun, right?  I'll bet some other folk can come up with some fun problem-solving missions as well.

Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: spud on May 17, 2015, 07:10:27 PM
My thoughts on the maps and evac dispatches documentation.  In my sim I have separated the PDF and Maps into their own folder with a short cut on my desktop.  The reasoning was that If I want to fly an evac. flight I can just click my shortcut and select the PDF of the flight I want and it is loaded.  No need to start a browser, go on-line and access the site, then the Medical Page to get the documentation etc. everything is available on my own HD all the time.
I see what Doug is saying, that not having to add the PDF and Maps to the database would speed up the process but for me a download of both the Facilities and the Dispatch files takes less than 15 seconds.  Accessing RTMM and then the Medical page takes longer timewise than downloading the files.  Testing the Medical Evacuations usually requires a new download of the databases an average of twice a day for me.
I hope if we alter the files to exclude the PDF's and Maps that there will be some method to retain a copy on our own HD as I prefer not to have to got to RTMM each time I fly an evacuation, particularly if I'm flying multiple medical flights.  A simple minimizing of FSX and clicking my shortcut to get the dispatch and minimizing it to the task bar where I bring it up any time during a flight is convenient and quick.
 8)
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: jsapair on May 17, 2015, 08:31:32 PM
I do the same as Spud. FP's, Pdf's and maps in separate folders on my desktop.  .XML files, too. Not that I don't enjoy visiting the RTMM web site, of course, I visit there every day anyway, but it eliminates a step having them available for reference on my 2nd monitor.
                                             JJ
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on May 17, 2015, 08:58:54 PM
I really appreciate the discussion. We will leave it as it is.  But if you have ideas, let us know.  Thank you for the input.

D
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on May 18, 2015, 03:13:07 PM
Vancouver Plus ....

As soon as we put in the new St Paul's Hospital in Vancouver BC, Dieter let us know right away that we had a conflict of objects with the hospitals ... our new one ran right on top of the VC+ object. The medical dock area, however seemed OK. (I finally gave up and bought VC+ because we will be using this area a lot and I have to know if we have a conflict in the future).

To solve the problem, I put the new St Paul's Hospital Plus Annex right down by the medical dock. (This is obviously fictional, but was the only way we could make BOTH work).  Below the screenshot is with VC+ and the new "St Pauls Hospital Annex". They fit together!

So any helo flights coming into the Vancouver medical complexes will use the Annex way point of M034D (for dock).  But the hospital is right there so it can be used for the annex helipad also.  For those with VC+, there is a way point of M034V ... that waypoint will take you to the "real" St Paul's hospital in VC+.  There will be no "reception committee" there.  (You'll have to carry or drag your own patient to the doors!)

This should work for everyone, and it only cost me $25 euros!  (less beer!!)

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: av8erjm on May 19, 2015, 12:23:28 PM
Doug I found another typo on E021B in the instructions where it says  M019B I think it s/b M019F for the float plane medical dock. The only reason I found this  I flew a D18 because of the distance and the ability to carry the whole boat crew out in one flight, otherwise I been trying to use the heli's as much as possible. Great job though out of 22 missions all I have found is 2 typos. Thanks for keeping me entertained and out of the wife's hair. That correction is where it says medical destination, farther down it does list it as M019F, so I do not know if it's that big a thing after all
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on May 19, 2015, 12:56:06 PM
Those are the "little" things that we always try to look for, thank you for the sharp eye catching it.  We really put this whole page together in short time (long hours) but short time.  You should see the system I have here trying to keep things "straight" :-).  It is beginning to "settle down" now, but when you spot something like this let us know, as you did, and we'll get right on it.  We're not a "professional" group ... but we've got some people fooled into thinking we are!  This helps us keep up the pretense! :-)

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: ualani on May 19, 2015, 01:28:53 PM
Doug is being modest; the only thing that differentiates him from a professional is that he's doing it for the love of the hobby and doesn't make a dime off of it. If the public only knew how much time, effort, thought and sleepless nights that he puts into the RTMM world they'd be shocked! He's the glue that keeps all of us together.
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: stiletto2 on May 19, 2015, 02:47:39 PM
Well said, Steve!

Rod
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: av8erjm on May 19, 2015, 06:00:09 PM
And don't think I don't appreciate what you folks do, your doing Picasso and I'm drawing stick figures, like I've said on different post's I am amazed at the sceneries that are created and all for a thank you here and there. Like I said in my post to Dieter earlier today, sometimes you only hear from some when they have a problem, for some reason in human nature a lot of folks are just that way. I am really having a good time with the Medical Missions and what with vectors from Corbu1, Trex3D, Tenpin and others I'm venturing into the realm of whip wings, which I probably wouldn't have considered otherwise
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on May 20, 2015, 10:58:54 AM
Thank you!  Well, it is a lot of work, but also a heck of a lot of fun. The following pic is not a spoiler of the "accident scene" but gives you a taste of the realism we are trying to create.  This is from E041B.

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on May 21, 2015, 02:38:03 PM
The right hand column has been updated on the Medical Dispatch table.  The medical facility the dispatch goes to is now listed there with the "M" number. So you can use CTRL-F on the web page and search for a hospital now if you need to.

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: av8erjm on May 22, 2015, 04:58:27 PM
OK made it all the way up to E027B with only typo errors, but on this one I'm missing landing docks and I have medical personnel walking on water. I downloaded and installed all 3 of the Medical folders again and went back and re installed all 3 of the RTMM libraries, and still no change. Any ideas what I did wrong or what am I missing one pic shows Tofino Harbor and the other is at E027B
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on May 22, 2015, 09:16:09 PM
Hi ... Those objects you are missing are from FTX-PNW ... ORBX Pacific NorthWest.  The objects you are seeing are the ones I put into that scenery. The helipad is de-elevated just under the deck of that platform so you cannot see that it is really the concrete pad.  You are missing PNW?

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: spud on May 23, 2015, 01:51:52 AM
av8erjm,
you say all 3 of the RTMM libraries.  Are you referring to the 3 separate download zip files or an actual number of RTMM libraries?  I ask because there are acutally 6 different RTMM Libraries PLUS the TEMP medical Library for a total of seven libraries that should be on your HD.
I believe Doug has determined the problem however that you do not have ORBX PNW region scenery installed.
 8)
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Dieter on May 23, 2015, 04:39:37 AM
@av8erjm

I suppose your problem at  CAU6/Gold River SPB  is  caused because of using this small addon scenery for this area:
- FSX BC PNW Gold River
by Mike Mann

This scenery is very neat but will cause these problems.

Dieter
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: av8erjm on May 23, 2015, 01:01:58 PM
I have PNW but maybe I didn't get an update or maybe a corrupted file, I'll check into that, thanks for the vectors. Been having a ball learning to fly heli's. The one for Helen's Fright had a pucker factor of 10+
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: av8erjm on May 23, 2015, 01:24:22 PM
Spud, what I was referring to was part's 1,2,3 of the FSX/P3D object libraries with all the folders enclosed and then I re- the downloaded the 3 zip files from the Medical Dispatch page, sorry I wasn't to clear on that. I guess I'll just reload PNW and all it's updates and see what shakes out. But right now I'm watching Captain of the Clouds on Turner Classic's Priorities you know
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Dieter on May 24, 2015, 05:00:09 AM
@av8erjm

I'm persuaded that you problem doesn't arise from missing RTMM libraries or missing PNW update.
My first screenshot showns dispatch E027B at Gold River SPB (CAU6) - just ORBX PNW.
My second screenshot showns same place using ORBX PNW plus the addon scenery I mentioned above.
And that is what I see in your screenshot above.
- Maybe you might search your simulator installation for folowing files
- CAU6_Gold_River_Float_ALT.BGL
or
- 0_CAU6Excludes_x.BGL
If you find them it's the proof for use of the additional scenery I'm referring on.


Additionally I checked CAB4/Tofino Medical Dock:
- Doug's screenshot above shows the dock based on Orbx PNW.
Your  screenshot again shows the problem when using an additional software, in this case
- tofinobases.zip
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Yoland on May 24, 2015, 03:04:22 PM
I have downloaded and installed all the available RTMM medical facilities. When I considered that everything was adequate, all needed sceneries arranged in the right folder and activated in the flight sim library, I decided to start on Misty Moorings place to check if these new medical equipment and buildings were now available in my flight simulator (in this case P3d V. 2.5). Currently, thinking that I had done everything correctly, I was certainly very disappointed to note that absolutely nothing had changed in this scenery. No infirmary or hospital, just the same spot that I had before… somewhat depressing!
Then I spent about three hours controlling everything, all misty moorings sceneries, ORBX files, the scene’s layers priority, etc. I even reloaded and reinstalled all the objects libraries.
At this point I almost decided to forget about these “bloody” new medical facilities. But before leaving everything as it was, I decided to re-read the RTMM MEDICAL FACILITIES PAGE on this web site. And it is when checking the MEDICAL FACILITIES DIRECTORY SECTION, checking what it said for “Misty Place” that I discovered the source of my problem: in the relevant paragraph there is a NOTAM which says “Misty Place Scenery must be updated”. I just did it and now it works perfectly. Of course, subsequently I checked the NOTAM for all Medical Facilities and made the available corrections.
Maybe I should have posted my problem on the forum asking for help. I am sure that the author of the Misty Place’s Med Facility (Doug Lynn) would have pointed to me that I needed to download a new Misty Place scenery and everything would have been solved much easier. But this is a good lesson which taught me that if one read carefully the instructions given on the web site, everything should work perfectly.
I know also that one cannot transform a donkey into a racing horse just by cutting its ears, and in this case I really acted with a donkey’s mind. But telling this story might hopefully help some of my fellow pilots.
(http://imageshack.com/a/img909/5235/2upLgd.jpg)
(http://imageshack.com/a/img538/4241/RLDhS5.jpg)
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on May 24, 2015, 03:41:44 PM
Hi Yoland ... we are going to try NOT to do that very often, as you can see by the other ones listed, there are only a couple that required us to fix the "base" scenery location. Misty's Place was one. But most of the others will not require that.  It is hard to state in words, but if a "date" is under that scenery needed, then that means the location was updated. If a date is NOT there, then it means a person needs to have the scenery, but it was not updated ... so if they already had it, they do not have to re-download. We're trying to make this work for people who are seeing this for the first time as well as the old-hands. It is a "fun" balancing act!

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: jeff3163 on May 24, 2015, 04:00:52 PM
Quote
But this is a good lesson which taught me that if one read carefully the instructions given on the web site, everything should work perfectly.
  ;)

That sounds familiar . . .  :P 

(Glad you got it sorted out.)
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: spud on May 24, 2015, 11:53:18 PM
Yoland,
one thing about discovering your own errors is that you will always remember what the problems were.  If its any consolation I can't even come close to remembering how many, (in the most simple, graphic manner I can use) BRAIN FARTS I have committed with, not only RTMM scenery  but addon scenery in general.  Don't worry it probably wont be the last time either.  :-X ::)
 8)
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: av8erjm on May 25, 2015, 01:32:12 PM
Dieter, thanks for the vectors. They problem was with a couple sceneries I got somewhere  written by a Mike Mann. I offed them and problem solved. Now off to save more folks in the medical dispatch page
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: av8erjm on May 25, 2015, 03:27:49 PM
Doug one more typo with E027B dispatch, down where the dispatch's are listed and in the far right column where it's to/from/by, Eo27 is listed as f:stewart, to McLeod same as E028, shouldn't it be from:CAB4 or tofino to Telegraph. If I'm getting to nick picking left me know, I am tickled that you took on the task at all
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on May 25, 2015, 05:30:04 PM
Yes ... that one was going to Comex ... M010 ... had it wrong in the dispatch too, which I fixed.  Thank you!
Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: av8erjm on June 01, 2015, 01:43:20 AM
Well happy to say I've completed the medical dispatches as they listed today. Flew them both in a fixed wing and heli's, with very few exceptions I found the Porter to be my choice for fixed wing and flew most of the heli flights in the Bell 206. All I can say is great job in putting this pkg together really enjoyed having use real wx and flying right down on the deck more than a few times. best of all it got me more interested in the whip wings. Lot's to master there, small movements the order of the day. Great job to all of those working behind the curtain on this one
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on June 01, 2015, 07:49:43 AM
Well, we appreciate everyone's patience on that project. It was beta all the way, but folks hung in there and helped us getting it running smoothly. We had never tried anything quite like that, there were some very different concepts involved and you will see why soon...Rod has a great surprise package for this project that puts the cherry in the top...you'll love it.

Thanks to all

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on June 01, 2015, 08:06:09 AM
Did you notice?

We have a new author for a medical dispatch...and it is great one, with a unique idea for an emergency...and done by a fellow who knows more about these things than we do! Check out E042B and H. This one was done completely by Dr Thomas Menzel...scenery, reception, documentation, maps...he did it all. These things look simple, but they are not easy...they are complicated. Hats off to Thomas for a great job and a fine contribution. Thank you Thomas!

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on June 01, 2015, 10:56:46 AM
Does anybody have a current email address on Mike Mann?  I used:     twocatzmann@hotmail.com and it is not working. Let me know if you have an email address on him so I can ask permission on the lighthouses.

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: ualani on June 01, 2015, 11:21:01 AM
Doug,
The same file is already in our library. Look in Dieter's Corner.
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: ualani on June 01, 2015, 11:24:06 AM
I'm working on a set of HD enhanced night textures for the Medical Library. Here's a handful of teasers.
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: ualani on June 01, 2015, 11:25:56 AM
More....
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: ualani on June 01, 2015, 11:28:07 AM
More....
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: stiletto2 on June 01, 2015, 11:44:13 AM
Hey Steve,

Night lighting additions look very cool!

Rod
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on June 01, 2015, 01:16:29 PM
Looks Great Steve!!!

On the Lighthouses ... yes Dieter has it, but that's sort of his little area. We need to "officially" host it for the site.  So yes, we would have it in two places, but I'd like to make it official with Mike.  (Update, Ken has sent Mike a message that we want to get in touch with him ... progress!)

D
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on July 09, 2015, 07:48:22 PM
There are some new Medical Dispatches up there. Thomas and I have been busy making some new ones for you. Thomas put up a fine one using Gilbert Bay, and I just put up to that are mostly SEARCH.  When we are doing these search ones, there may not be a waypoint, but a route the pilot was following when he got into trouble. That is what happens in E047B ... best for helicopters, but fixed wings can "play" to on this one.

Check out the new ones on the Medical Facilities Page.

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on July 11, 2015, 03:42:17 PM
Two more medevacs added today, one by me and a great one by Thomas. His is about a mining accident 20 miles north of Taku Lodge. You take off from the lodge, go to the mine airstrip, pick up the patient and head back to Juneau. Beautiful trip. If was especially "fun" today because of the weather conditions ... this pic was on the way back to Juneau with the patient ...

Doug

Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on July 13, 2015, 05:29:15 PM
One more added today...this is search only. When we do not have a waypoint, we will be calling them "search". Some folks are saying the enjoy the searching with no waypoint...vectors, bearings, etc. so we will be doing both in the MedEvac site. I've put a little logo in the left column so you will know if a waypoint is involved.
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: spud on July 13, 2015, 06:01:02 PM
Doug,
the instructions do not have a bearing listed from Langura Light.  In addition is there supposed to be a .bgl file for scenery or is the 'small boat' a default?
Will fly the search and see what it out there?!

Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on July 13, 2015, 08:21:28 PM
Thank you, fixed the bearing from Langara Lighthouse.  Also, this is a "nutcase" who went fishing with a single motor fishing boat, all by himself into a body of water way beyond the means of the boat. I bet the Coast Guard goes nuts with these kind of people. No safety flares or smoke on board either. Maybe if you find the guy, we ought to let him sit out there all night.  This one has a 99% "real" factor I bet.

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: spud on July 14, 2015, 09:21:41 AM
OK on the small boat.  Have not found him yet!!! As for the .bgl I must have looked at the previous dispatch scenery folder as I see a .bgl for 051 now.  Still need to search harder I guess.
 8)
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on July 14, 2015, 11:21:56 AM
I bet there are a lot of real ones like this...no GPS, no smoke flare. Guess that's what the Coast Guard's job is, but people should take greater care.  I'm always amazed at this scenery though..even the sea is vast...and a cabin or a boat so hard to see. Gives you respect.

D
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: jsapair on July 14, 2015, 04:19:34 PM
My youngest boy served in the Coast Guard for 5 years on a 47' lifeboat out of Chetco Station, Brookings, Oregon...the busiest recreational boat harbor on the OR coast. He has some great stories. Hundreds of rescues. There are no limits to stupidity.

                                                 JJ
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: jsapair on July 14, 2015, 09:00:50 PM
I found this today. An American Red Cross texture for the FSX default Cessna 208B Grand Caravan.

   Ooops.  The attachment is too large. The file name is c208brx.zip over at Fly Away Simulation if you want it.

http://flyawaysimulation.com/

                                          JJ                                 
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: av8erjm on August 11, 2015, 12:36:29 PM
on e047b I found the cub busted up and the orange smoke, but no survivors, were they cooked in the fire or had they climbed to the top and hiding in the trees, looked all over couldn't find them
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: av8erjm on August 11, 2015, 03:53:57 PM
on E049B I found the helipad t be soft, could not position on it w/o sinking down on thru otherwise rest of it worked great
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: tomse on August 30, 2015, 10:12:20 AM
Sorry, noticed your post today,
Flew e049b with the Heli but had no soft helipad.
Could you post a pic?
Thomas
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: av8erjm on August 30, 2015, 11:42:05 AM
does tis help??
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on August 30, 2015, 01:14:22 PM
I'll be darned.  I'm using the same object at Cascade Creek Hydro ... and it sits right on top of the platform. We'll have to think about this one.

Update: If you go to slew mode, and go "up" then set it back down does it stop on the surface?  This may be related to another problem I'm seeing with ADE. I'm trying to make a starting point on top of a dam, but I cannot get ADE to recognize the elevation, so it starts at the base of the dam. This could be similar, something to do with the starting altitude (which I've ben unable to manipulate so far in ADE). Let us know on the slew, that would be a clue.

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: stiletto2 on August 30, 2015, 01:54:06 PM
Hi Doug,

Steve W. figured out how to start at elevation using ADE when we did the helipad for Hospital at Anchorage...check with him if you have questions...

Rod
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on August 30, 2015, 01:56:24 PM
Aha!  Off to visit Steve W! :-)

D
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: ualani on August 30, 2015, 02:52:26 PM
Problem is, I forget what I had to do to make it work. I'll need to wrack my brain to remember it.

EDIT: Part of it's coming back; I'm pretty sure that it had something to do with creating a transparent, itty-bitty  runway at the desired starting point.
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: spud on August 30, 2015, 02:58:56 PM
Aha!  I'm not the only one with "OLDFART Syndrom"!   ;D :P
 8)
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: ualani on August 30, 2015, 03:06:30 PM
Are you saying that we're old? Not me!
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on August 30, 2015, 03:09:16 PM
If you look at Mahoney Lake Hydro and go to heli start #2, you will see the problem. The helipad is solid, but ADE doesn't realize that hard surface is 'up there'. I'm leaving the problem there so folks can see it and see how/if we can solve it. Danny may be having a similar problem with the MedEvac start. That heli platform works fine at Cascade, has a hard surface, but he starts being positioned under it. I bet it is a trick in ADE.

Doug
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Bradallen43 on August 30, 2015, 06:28:20 PM
I fix this by using Instant Scenery and adding a default Helipad and scale it down very small. Place that in the center of the helipad in this picture, then lower the height to make the object you are using have it's wheels stay on the surface. It's trial and error to get it right.

Brad
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: av8erjm on August 30, 2015, 07:27:20 PM
I tried slewing up and then back down, but I go all the way thru, if I try to slew down to the pad it just takes off lickity split across country
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: Doug on August 30, 2015, 08:38:14 PM
I'm sitting on the pad having safely landed my beaver via slew  :-).   It is showing a hard surface for me on that helipad.  So this is not a problem related to ADEX I was thinking of. This is different.  Are you having problems with any other hard surfaces that are raised like that? 

Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: av8erjm on August 30, 2015, 10:16:07 PM
I've flown the entire medical flights and this is the only one where I sink thru. Maybe I try to re download all 3 files and try it again. Right now have to hit the rack have an early day tomorrow
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: av8erjm on September 01, 2015, 02:23:19 PM
OK I took out all three of the med files from the scenery library page, closed out FSX and  manually removed them from the Addon Scenery file reload the files from the page here then reversed the entire process then rebooted FSX and then added back all 3 files back on the scenery library page  hit ok went to the coordinates  for Paradise Cove with the same results. I even have tried different whip wings but still having the same results. I don't know what else to do except go have a scotch, but it's too early for that, according to the wife. If someone stumbles on to a fix fine otherwise on to bigger n' better things
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: ualani on September 01, 2015, 07:26:47 PM
av8erjm,
That helipad object is messed up and it's not anything that you are doing that is a problem; the problem is in the object it's self. I'm trying to find a solution, but so far no luck. I'm thinking it may be just the way it is for ever. But if I find what's wrong with it and we can swap the bad for the good, I'll let folks know.

In the mean time, raise a Scotch for me. (Doug could probably use a belt as well.)

Steve
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: av8erjm on September 01, 2015, 07:41:28 PM
OK thanks I'll stop the self abuse then, just kidding. Like I said no blood no foul, I've enjoyed the ''life flight'' as I have enjoyed all the other flights and challenges, I just adapt things a little to enjoy the whole, anyway good luck and I'll leave you guys to the business of keeping me entertained.  ;)
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: ualani on September 01, 2015, 09:06:30 PM
I think I fixed the floating aircraft on the helipad issue and Doug will be double checking the results when he gets the time. The object is indeed at fault. The positioning of the hardened surface (which is invisible) was defined at the wrong elevation relative to the helipad's actual surface. I'm sure that makes a lot of sense!
Title: Re: Medical Facilities Web Page
Post by: spud on September 02, 2015, 01:50:05 PM
Hey...makes a lot more sense than a wooden watch on a gold chain!

Thanks for fixing one of those little 'niggling' annoyances that detract from sim enjoyment.
Hellocopeckers can now alight with abandon.
 :(